amcflyboy

More Hawaiian A330's showing up at JFK.

Bluedriver

Not sure if this was a serious answer or if you can read proficiently, but I asked what PILOT PRODUCTIVITY changes the company wanted?

Do you need me to fully explain how my question doesn't have to do with code-sharing or interline agreements?

GuppyPuppy

Right now open trips must sit in opentime on flica for at least one hour. Company wants to immediately assign these to a reserve pilot.

The current rules benefits the line holder. Management would essentially take away a method that many use to earn extra income. Assigned to areserve saves the company money since reserves are essentially salaried employees. This could really bite them during an irop!

GP

Bluedriver

Ah, this is what I was asking. Any other productivity/workrule changes they are seeking?

windrider

I have no idea if there is any truth to this but I heard they wanted to bump the premium pay trigger to something higher as well as institute a cap on the monthly credit a pilot can earn.

shiznit

Caps are the opposite of "productivity", the most productive you can be is to fly to FAR maximums, not sure I would believe that part of a rumor if I was in your shoes...

benzoate

Currently everything is on the table. Premium pay is a big topic. Merit pay/NPS is another. Daily minimums vs averages. Block time vs flight time.

Then there are the larger items like domestic code sharing and exploiting the loops holes in the PEA. Keep in mind you have a perceived
voice in international code sharing but none for domestic. There is no limit. The only issue is the potential uproar from the pilot ranks.

What the Jetblue pilot group must understand now more than ever is any pay raise you receive is worthless when you will be out of a job in three years. What do I mean? As a Jetblue pilot you have no scope provision or domestic code share restriction. What management is currently suggesting is a large percentage raise in return for a blessing on these issues.

Legacy carriers out smarted pilot groups in the past with this and look what happened with regional carriers. Jetblue is taking much the same stance.We need to learn from our peers past mistakes.

Scope, T/E language and code sharing CANNOT be compromised.

Hawaiian Airlines at T5 is a gross exploitation of the PEA loophole and one Jetblue intends on continuing. There is only one way to prevent this.

Sennaha

Cap on premium, not total compensated hours. Let's say prem. trigger from 88-100. After 100 credit, straight pay.

cmesoar

I agree with u Benz. It's better scope or the unemployment line. The legacies outsource a huge part of their domestic flying.. We are in trouble if we continue this and/or get purchased. I could care less about retirement or premium pay if we have minimal scope.. That's just my opinion tho.

RiddleEagle18

If you guys havent noticed premium doesnt exist for more than half of the pilot group.

Combine all your pay for the month and the divide it by total hours flown. If you fly 83 hours a month on second year pay Your blended pay rate is like an extra 2 dollars an hour. It also creates a system where the company benefits from creating 20 hour 4 days and you only get 14 days off while only getting 83 hours.

Premium needs to go(with appropriate pay raise) in favor of a system similar to the delta slip program.