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Old 05-03-2013, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
Do any of you really think we'd have jobs if anyone bought us? I'm not talking day 1 after acquisition, I'm talking long-term.

Whoever buys us will screw the JB pilots over royally. You can bank on that.

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Depends on who buys us. A company like AA/US needs all the young pilots they can to even out the seniority list and prevent massive retirement issues. Southwest? Not so much.

Also having a job and having seniority are two separate issues. We need a union if we want to have any real security on either matter.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:35 AM
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Actually nobody is buying JetBlue. It was purely hypothetical.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:59 AM
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Ah, the magic tax! Fixes all that ills, and saves everyone money!

I will spare everyone from my reply, as I stand by my previous statements.
Not magic at all but it certainly would be good for the economy and job creation.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
Do any of you really think we'd have jobs if anyone bought us? I'm not talking day 1 after acquisition, I'm talking long-term.

Whoever buys us will screw the JB pilots over royally. You can bank on that.

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Going forward with the pilot market tightening greatly, possible shortage, and the retirements coming, 2500 young and trained pilots, who are thus far anti-union, fly lots of block hours and have shown themselves willing to work for 25% less pay and benefits will be a CLEAR ASSET to an aquiring airline management.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:02 PM
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how quickly you forget the CAL pay rates prior to the new contract..
$57 for narrow body 2nd year...



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Going forward with the pilot market tightening greatly, possible shortage, and the retirements coming, 2500 young and trained pilots, who are thus far anti-union, fly lots of block hours and have shown themselves willing to work for 25% less pay and benefits will be a CLEAR ASSET to an aquiring airline management.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Xjetter
how quickly you forget the CAL pay rates prior to the new contract..
$57 for narrow body 2nd year...
That was then and this is now. The past is just that, look forward not back.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:50 AM
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Definitely agree with you. Im just saying a 12 year old company is just that. Still young..patience is virtue..


QUOTE=txbusdriver;1403246]That was then and this is now. The past is just that, look forward not back.[/QUOTE]
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Xjetter
Definitely agree with you. Im just saying a 12 year old company is just that. Still young..patience is virtue..


QUOTE=txbusdriver;1403246]That was then and this is now. The past is just that, look forward not back.
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Are you trying to build an Airline, or fly for one?



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Old 05-06-2013, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Xjetter
Definitely agree with you. Im just saying a 12 year old company is just that. Still young..patience is virtue..


QUOTE=txbusdriver;1403246]That was then and this is now. The past is just that, look forward not back.
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While I'll give you that patience is a virtue...

jetBlue is a Billion dollar a year company! They have been touting "industry average" for 5+ years. I don't care how old the company is at this point. The "nimble" DR is a slug with no direction other than misdirection in order to pay your less.

The "we're a new company", "give us some time", line was worn out a few years ago.
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Old 05-06-2013, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Xjetter
Definitely agree with you. Im just saying a 12 year old company is just that. Still young..patience is virtue..


QUOTE=txbusdriver;1403246]That was then and this is now. The past is just that, look forward not back.
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$1.3 billion in revenue in the first quarter. Pilot CASM advantage approaching 30%. Yep, I'm impatient. Pay like a major or face the consequences.....high attrition, cancelled flights, training issues due to lack of experienced new hires, etc.
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