HalinTexas

Fact: Why would any airline hire someone that's been fired? They don't have to know the reason. There are too many pilots out there looking for work that haven't been fired for any reason. All HR has to do is see that he/she was terminated. Enough said.

On the other hand, some carriers with training contracts might like you because they know you won't quit a year or two after they've trained you.

Topper

Yes He filed a grievence and lost in the end because the arbatrator saw that it was policy three trips and out The dead head did not have a written policy for and as a side note the recorded conversation between company and pilot were "lost" and never found. He has explain to others that the two missed trips were unexcusable and a honest mistake but that the mistake was made and he was warned properly. In the end i quess the right thing happen it just hurts alot. I regret the whole ordeal and have miss oppurtunities because I did want to start over at the time at the regionals CHA, but I see no other way to get back but to go to the regional again. he was at PNL 6yrs

Anyway long story short I'm type in a G3 and flying 91 for a company now I like it. I just miss the life.

Thank you all for the reply......Tailwinds.

coyote

The termination will be meaningless unless the applicant is choses to discuss it in depth. Most, if not all, HR departments currently only allow the dates of employment to be released to prospective employers due to the possibility of liability. I personally know of pilots terminated from 121 carriers for much more serious events (safety, walking off a flight full of passengers because they had been given incorrect performance data which they could not determine was for a different subtype, leaving the jet and taking the logbook with them because they were angry with Mx, a student in class harrassing a gay flight attendent during wet ditch training etc.) Also, before you say it, yes this is recent, within the last 5 years. As far as the old boy network, it doesn't work very well for the same libality concerns and, often, the reverse. The sooner a problem employee is hired with another carrier, the clock stops on potential damages.
Having seen it from the other side of the desk, give your dates of employment, don't lie but don't throw yourself under the bus, and learn from your mistakes.
By the way, many of these "problem" pilots rehabed their carriers and have not had furthur problems, so most of the time the system works. Also, just because someone doesn't fit in one airline doesn't mean they won't be just what another one is looking for. It really is a wonderful industry with a place for just about all of us.