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Old 10-31-2012, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
How long is one likely to remain an E-190 FO?

A pay cut first year, well OK that's how the game is played. But if it dragged on to say five years...
0 months with that attitude LOL AMIRITE??
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:10 PM
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Thanks trogdor
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallifrey
Is there a seat lock after you switch from e9 to bus?
Why do you ask? Don't think the bus to heavy is happening quick.... It could be a while..... Bus is probably about as good as it gets for 5 plus years at a minimum no?
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Old 11-01-2012, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Trogdor
Yes. 18 months every time you switch aircraft.
But not a base lock. You are frozen to the equipment, but can move from base to base on it if there are vacancies.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by R57 relay
But not a base lock. You are frozen to the equipment, but can move from base to base on it if there are vacancies.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Permanent Bids seem to open every 3-4 months. There was recently an October and November base bid. October new hire could have changes his base bid in November from DCA Airbus to CLT Airbus or visa versa.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but Permanent Bids seem to open every 3-4 months. There was recently an October and November base bid. October new hire could have changes his base bid in November from DCA Airbus to CLT Airbus or visa versa.
Correct with the caveat that there has to be an opening, and it's the same equipment. So a guy hired in Sept and assigned the AB in DCA can be awarded AB in CLT on future bids, if a vacancy is there, at their seniority. The new A/C deliveries will provide many of those openings as guys reshuffle, it's just a question of whether they make it down to new hires.

A warning to new hires that hopefully they told you in indoc. Do not bid what you don't want. Seems pretty simple, but just about every bid you hear guys say "I didn't think I would get that!", even ones that have been here 20+ years. I know a 330 captain that had a % bid in and below that he put 767 captain. He forgot about it and dropped a couple numbers below his percentage. Off he went to 767 school and despite trying every trick in the book he was stuck until his freeze was up.

When the retirements kick in you will see seats go way out of seniority and the company can release you from a freeze at their discretion. Let's say you were hired in May 2012 and awarded E190 F/O. Your first day in the crew lounge you go load your permanent bid with A330 C/O down and then forget about it because you're frozen. You get to enjoying your seniority in PHL and forget about your bid. Then a bid comes out in March 2013, planning sees your DCA 320 F/O bid and releases you from your freeze early and awards you the bottom DCA 320 F/O position. Guess what? You own it and do for the next 18 months(i think that's the right length) and if you can't get a vacancy in CLT or PHL, you're stuck, unless you are displaced.

Every bid, for the rest of your career, check you permanent bid on file in CATCREW and make sure every choice is something you really want.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:25 AM
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Do you know when the next base/permanent bid comes out?
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gallifrey
Do you know when the next base/permanent bid comes out?
There are rumors for a February bid, which would make sense with the 190's coming on line 1st quarter. Nothing for sure though. It would come out in the next week or so.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:20 PM
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I have a friend at Airways that is going to write me a letter of recomendation. I haven't done the application yet, but wanted to know how the internal recs work.

Is there a conctact name or address that he should make the letter out to? Should he email it to someone in HR directly, or is there somewhere in the application where I can attach it?

Thanks!
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:42 PM
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I had a friend do it as well, he spoke to a chief pilot about how to do it and he said include it in the app. There's no real place to do this independently so I, using advice on here, attached it to page two of my resume and put it in that way.
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