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Old 08-15-2013, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
When did Guys/gals interview that are currently getting calls for class?
Did you interview recently? Quals?
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:31 PM
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kalymnos..Did you have a 4yr aswell? Starting on finishing mine this fall as it seems like its a must.
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by NTR32
As far as people hanging around/applying if this merger doesn't happen... Big changes, every third lister I talked to today was updating their applications (delta, united- even spirit & atlas)... What does that tell you?
You don't know many third listers.

Not everyone is as negative as canoepilot. First off, the likelihood of a merger is anyone's guess: it's way too early to say the deal is toast.
Secondly, assuming a merger doesn't take place, LOA 93 sucks hard but won't last forever. After seeing what DP was willing to offer in the MOU, this pilot group will NOT accept a garbage contract.
Finally, selecting a potential employer based solely on current work rules is a fool's errand. Over the course of a career relative seniority typically plays a far larger role in a pilot's QA than any given contract...and this pilot group is old as s#!t.
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CptRexKramer
You don't know many third listers.

Secondly, assuming a merger doesn't take place, LOA 93 sucks hard but won't last forever. After seeing what DP was willing to offer in the MOU, this pilot group will NOT accept a garbage contract.
DP made clear that what was offered in the MOU was because an airline the size of the new AA could afford to pay well. You won't see MOU-like wages in a contract without the merger.

In fact, you won't see any new contract any time soon because a new contract means the Nic.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairip
DP made clear that what was offered in the MOU was because an airline the size of the new AA could afford to pay well. You won't see MOU-like wages in a contract without the merger.

In fact, you won't see any new contract any time soon because a new contract means the Nic.
As a stand alone, 25% below united, delta, and American. Heard those words straight from DP's mouth.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fullflank
As a stand alone, 25% below united, delta, and American. Heard those words straight from DP's mouth.
I heard spreading rumors ain't nice. (You don't know)
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:24 PM
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I heard spreading rumors ain't nice. (You don't know)
I may not know whether or not he'll move off that number, but I do know I personally heard him say that.
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Old 08-15-2013, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kingairip
DP made clear that what was offered in the MOU was because an airline the size of the new AA could afford to pay well. You won't see MOU-like wages in a contract without the merger.

In fact, you won't see any new contract any time soon because a new contract means the Nic.
Of course it won't be the same offer made in the MOU, but it will be a helluva lot better than LOA 93. Also, a new contract won't happen for years, I know. However, for someone trying to weigh career options, it's important to recognize that the QA here will likely change (and not only due to attrition).
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:42 PM
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You're right I only spoke with nine the day I posted that comment. Will the merger happen or not...no one knows. It's not LOA 93 the ten of us worried about its the long term viability and ability to compete against the other big players. And you're right about not taking a garbage contract after seeing the mou rates.




Originally Posted by CptRexKramer
You don't know many third listers.

Not everyone is as negative as canoepilot. First off, the likelihood of a merger is anyone's guess: it's way too early to say the deal is toast.
Secondly, assuming a merger doesn't take place, LOA 93 sucks hard but won't last forever. After seeing what DP was willing to offer in the MOU, this pilot group will NOT accept a garbage contract.
Finally, selecting a potential employer based solely on current work rules is a fool's errand. Over the course of a career relative seniority typically plays a far larger role in a pilot's QA than any given contract...and this pilot group is old as s#!t.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fullflank
I may not know whether or not he'll move off that number, but I do know I personally heard him say that.
Personally......you guys drinking buddies?
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