Hawaiian to start regional subsidiary

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07-18-2012, 07:06 AM

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So what does their scope allow worst case? (how many, sizes, etc)

07-18-2012, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gloopy

Add in a merger with DL and presto, the "hard cap" gets raised again.

And just makes you think that it will be raised? The contract will have to be opened. I am pretty sure that management is well aware that there will be no give back on scope..

07-18-2012, 07:19 AM

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So is DL the new regional partner of HAL? Sweet, maybe finally i get to fly me some turboprop

07-18-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetspeed

Sounds like they have already contracted with an unnamed regional to do the flying. 3-6 airplanes according to this article: Hawaiian Airlines has new prices, plans new interisland routes - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL

www.penair.com coming soon to an island near you...

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07-18-2012, 08:37 AM

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www.penair.com coming soon to an island near you...

with over half empty a/c due to runway lenght restrictions. no JHM...

07-18-2012, 08:56 AM

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But wait, Lumberg said....

Only if we get Space Shuttles will they be added to the fleet. That's it! Any additional equipment has to be allowed in a joint contract. We did it during the joint contract with NWA because we had different hubs all with feed needs. It would have to be approved. But remember large turboprops go toward the cap numbers, there are no more "unlimited large turboprops" thanks to the TA and subsequent contract.

07-18-2012, 08:58 AM

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www.penair.com coming soon to an island near you...

Island Air is in the process of getting some ATR-72s to replace their old Dash-8-100s. Penn Air is there filling in while the Island Air guys go to training.

07-18-2012, 10:11 AM

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Delta merging with Hawaiian, never thought of that one but it sure does make sense in regards to fleet and potential connections. Delta utilizing HNL as a hub to compete with UA's Guam hub.

I hope Hawaiian stays independent, with all these mergers the airlines will lose any and all character they once had.

07-18-2012, 10:45 AM

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DAL Hawaiian is probably the easiest one to envision out there right now. Little overlap, good fleet commonality etc etc etc...

07-18-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetspeed

There isn't any contract. No official decisions yet on aircraft type or routes. While this has been a longstanding concept that was negotiated with both ALPA and AFA, it's still very early days.