O'Malley's rebuttal letter to C20
06-24-2012, 08:56 AM
#41
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Of course I am, but I stay away from the Dalpa board mostly. Talk about a viper pit! A bunch of grouchy meanies on there. I prefer the nice, laid back, family style board called APC. Ahhhhh, like a breath of fresh air....
06-24-2012, 10:23 AM
#43
Da Hudge
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This is a gross abuse of your power as a moderator. There is nothing in the terms of service that allow you to decide what is fair and what is not fair. You cannot make a rule up out of thin air that YOU decide is fair. If posting O'Malleys letter violates the terms of service then print out which one. This is blatant censorship because you oppose the TA. What a hypocrite.
Feel better?
06-24-2012, 04:16 PM
#44
Flies With The Hat On
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Tom Tucker insinuates that DALPA's MEC does not support this TA. He further highlights that Delta Negotiators negotiated with Top Delta Management and did not meet directed MEC objectives. In fact, the DALPA negotiating committee ink'd the DAL TA without reporting their failure to the DALPA MEC.
In 2005 the CAL negotiating committee willfully ink'd a concessionary contract. Six months later many Negotiating Committee and MEC members at CAL were recalled only to take management positions at Continental. Ie. The 2005 head negotiator for CAL ALPA is now a UAL contract negotiator.
Buyer beware, DAL has left a lot of money and leverage on the table by giving up Scope. American and US Air consolidation will bring further profits to Delta not recognized in this TA.
With this TA regional business models will not return to profitability.
In 2005 the CAL negotiating committee willfully ink'd a concessionary contract. Six months later many Negotiating Committee and MEC members at CAL were recalled only to take management positions at Continental. Ie. The 2005 head negotiator for CAL ALPA is now a UAL contract negotiator.
Buyer beware, DAL has left a lot of money and leverage on the table by giving up Scope. American and US Air consolidation will bring further profits to Delta not recognized in this TA.
With this TA regional business models will not return to profitability.
06-24-2012, 06:25 PM
#47
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So, according to DALPA, this TA is not cost neutral.
That would mean RA, EB, et al are lying by telling Wall Street that it is cost neutral.
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal. Wire fraud, conspiracy, etc. etc.
Someone needs to alert the FBI. And the SEC too, for good measure.
...or maybe it's DALPA who is lying.
That would mean RA, EB, et al are lying by telling Wall Street that it is cost neutral.
I'm pretty sure that would be illegal. Wire fraud, conspiracy, etc. etc.
Someone needs to alert the FBI. And the SEC too, for good measure.
...or maybe it's DALPA who is lying.
Despite everything I have read, I refuse to believe you are so obtuse as to not understand the meaning of this; but feel free to keep posting this "cost neutral" nonsense if it helps you rationalize your "no" vote.
06-24-2012, 06:27 PM
#48
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If the company saves $100 (or a billion) somewhere on the balance sheet and then gives it to us...it is "cost neutral" to the company, get it?
Despite everything I have read, I refuse to believe you are so obtuse as to not understand the meaning of this; but feel free to keep posting this "cost neutral" nonsense if it helps you rationalize your "no" vote.
Despite everything I have read, I refuse to believe you are so obtuse as to not understand the meaning of this; but feel free to keep posting this "cost neutral" nonsense if it helps you rationalize your "no" vote.
06-24-2012, 07:57 PM
#49
Line Holder
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He disagreed with the way you're handling your duties and he called you out on it.
When did that become whining?
Some people on here complain about ALPA all the time and you never have a problem with that.
What's good for the goose...
06-24-2012, 08:05 PM
#50
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Any reproduction or reposting of this message outside of an ALPA website without permission is strictly prohibited.
Why would it be unreasonable to think that TO's letter would not have the same restrictions? I think it was smart to wait for permission from both TO and TT before this feud gets aired here. In the end, TO's letter is up and TT's by his request is not. It was less than 15 hours from the time Alfa posted it until it was back. It wasn't the end of the world.
Alfa's response however was whiny. Just say you have permission to post it, nobody would doubt that he would have permission, end of story.
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