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Old 06-20-2012, 07:25 PM
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This is going to make for an interesting contrast to the Delta TA

APA INFORMATION HOTLINE
This is APA Communications Committee Chairman First Officer Tom Hoban with the APA Information Hotline for Wednesday, June 20.
APA BOARD REJECTS MANAGEMENT'S OFFER: By a vote of 11 to five, the APA Board of Directors decided this afternoon not to approve management’s “final offer” as a tentative agreement, which means it will not be submitted to the membership for a ratification vote.
The motion the Board voted against reads as follows: Motion to waive applicable policy and adopt the Company’s last, best, and final offer, dated 6/20/12 and time-stamped 1550 CDT, and upon adoption as required by Article XII, Paragraph D of the C&B, this document will be the Board-approved Tentative Agreement.
In explaining their opposition to approving the offer as a tentative agreement, a number of Board members cited the lack of specificity in various areas and the need for additional time to properly analyze various contractual provisions and related language.
The bankruptcy judge is expected to issue a ruling on Friday regarding management’s motion to reject our collective bargaining agreement.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:28 PM
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There is a lot going on behind the scenes here. Scope is rumored to be no more than 76 seat jets. Of course the deal is not final, but they have been working hard on this.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
There is a lot going on behind the scenes here. Scope is rumored to be no more than 76 seat jets. Of course the deal is not final, but they have been working hard on this.
I guess we will know Friday. ALPA says the 1113 was for 88 seats.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
There is a lot going on behind the scenes here. Scope is rumored to be no more than 76 seat jets. Of course the deal is not final, but they have been working hard on this.
That's not what is being posted over in the AMR threads. Here's what one guy just said:

Eagle Fly here is part of the deal contained:
-13.5% stake in the new company upon exit from BK
-3-4% Raise on date of signing, 2% per for 3 years then industry average to include Delta, United and US Air
-sequence protection
-Eagle gets 79 seat jets and below, with a reduction in ASM's they are allowed to fly pertaining to the narrow body fleet, 110% down to 75% of ASMs
-PBS with in the year
-60% of ASMs for code sharing
-per diem increase to $2/hr
-work rules were vague and not completely worked out.

This deal was worked out with Judge Peck in the room. He was not completely one sided, but you could see that he was leaning towards the company.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:37 PM
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Yeah I was just told the APA board voted it down. Might be sporty on Friday.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:42 PM
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I don't get warm fuzzies about APA's upcoming scope. I think it'll make ours look good.
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Yeah I was just told the APA board voted it down. Might be sporty on Friday.
True Statement.
Pilots' union rejects American Airlines' final offer | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
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Old 06-20-2012, 07:45 PM
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They throw their agreement many airlines are going to want to move. Dal will want our deal done.
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Bankruptcy judges can't abrogate scope, so if there is a ruling on Friday it will be motion denied till the scope relief is taken out.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
Bankruptcy judges can't abrogate scope, so if there is a ruling on Friday it will be motion denied till the scope relief is taken out.
Question: can the court throw out parts of a contract, or is it non-severable?
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