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Old 06-20-2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Can you really expect anything more?
I liked your previous "that's the pot calling the kettle black" post instead.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:40 AM
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Now, because of these types of assertions, if we vote this TA in, in the back of our minds, many of us will wonder if the new contract we have is because of its merits, or because of a threat of being hit over the head with a stick.

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Very true. The short-term value of rejecting this TA is, to me, significant. However, I understand why that's debatable for some risk-averse folks.

However, the long term, strategic value of rejecting this TA is massive.

Our negotiators' job would be infinitely easier if the legitimate threat of another rejected TA is in the back of management's mind next time they negotiate with us.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Can you really expect anything more?
Yes, I can.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Another example of the fine debate taking place here.
Originally Posted by johnso29
Can you really expect anything more?
Originally Posted by slowplay
Yes, I can.
I don't think we should pick on anyones size, being that I am in the 40" and all crowd.

However, Slow, you know we all throw some mud at times around here. I can go back and look at the last 150 posts of some around here, Alfa comes to mind, for plenty of evidence.

But I'll make a deal, from this point forward I'll have a no mud throwing til the TA vote is over policy if anyone wants to join.

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Old 06-20-2012, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I don't think we should pick on anyones size, being that I am in the 40" and all crowd.

But I'll make a deal, from this point forward I'll have a no mud throwing til the TA vote is over policy if anyone wants to join.
I'm in...with the exclusion that I can still pick on "schools" that are primariliy athletic factories! I'd do that with or without a TA.

Plus, if we get enough UT slams T-Square will lose his bet....
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:28 AM
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Focus attentions here instead....

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Old 06-20-2012, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29

Can you really expect anything more?
So does Deadhead get a warning for telling Alfa to Sit n Spin? Seems like an awful thing to say to a grown man. I'll go back and report his post right now, Mod.
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So if the TA is voted down, it is great for me. Now I get to sit back in the bleachers and watch you guys flail around, accomplishing nothing, and I get to throw rocks. If you think I am tough now, just wait, it will be no holds barred. I have a great side gig that I can devote more time to as it pays quite well.
Threats aren't very becoming.....

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So does Deadhead get a warning for telling Alfa to Sit n Spin? Seems like an awful thing to say to a grown man. I'll go back and report his post right now, Mod.
And for the record I never told Alfa to Sit and Spin.

Not sure where you got that.

I was merely making the parallel that if we, as a group, are going to vindictively attack one another based on the outcome of a TA vote, then we are all collectively going to be wasting our time spinning where we are, going no where, and dizzying ourselves in the process.

This group is better than that.

Not sure how that can be taken out of context

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Old 06-20-2012, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
So does Deadhead get a warning for telling Alfa to Sit n Spin? Seems like an awful thing to say to a grown man. I'll go back and report his post right now, Mod.
Did you even read alfa's post?
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Why don't you ask the FDX pilots that just took a 3%/3% over the last 2 years.
(that just announced parking additional airplanes)
Are we surprised you are being misleading again? Not in the least. Just selling more inaccurate blather in an attempt to pied piper this pilot group to your end goal.

The Fedex pilots mutually agreed with management to take this raise and get into the meat and potatoes after the new FTDT stuff was figured out. Notice they took no concessionary work rules to fund the raise they did get (already top of the industry).

You can also fully expect them to make nice gains without concessions on their upcoming contract. You see Fedex is making money and the pilots aren't "constructively engaging" themselves to a cost neutral contract with little gains in the long run. Hell, they might even improve their work rules and scope. What a concept.

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