The Many Reasons a Delta Captain Votes NO
06-13-2012, 07:39 PM
#181
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The company has also spent much time and resources to negotiate a deal with us 8 months before our contract is amendable. Why would they do that Ferd? And when you answer that to your own satisfaction, ask yourself why they would have wasted those resources because they're too stubborn and need to show the pilots who's boss?
They know our process as well as we do. They know full well that a NO vote is possible. Thus, they would have been FOOLISH to give us their real bottom line on the first try. We'll be even more foolish if we take it.
Carl
They know our process as well as we do. They know full well that a NO vote is possible. Thus, they would have been FOOLISH to give us their real bottom line on the first try. We'll be even more foolish if we take it.
Carl
But seriously, they are willing to go direct if they can but they are also more than willing to stay on the published route. But, as to your point, remember they have shown how much they love us with the JCBA, how did the second offer look. I stand by my opinion.....there is no way they are going to show other employee groups that they are more flexibile with a union than if you don't have one.
I suggest we consult with our buddy Jack. He knows all and will lead us to total truth by the end of the evening. Too bad he charges so much in the Sports Bar for such consultation
Ferd
06-13-2012, 07:42 PM
#182
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06-13-2012, 07:52 PM
#183
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Well of course I 'could be' wrong, I just doubt I am. For one thing, we both know these guys.....you know they want to show us who's boss, these are our sharks not the nice southern species
But seriously, they are willing to go direct if they can but they are also more than willing to stay on the published route. But, as to your point, remember they have shown how much they love us with the JCBA, how did the second offer look. I stand by my opinion.....there is no way they are going to show other employee groups that they are more flexibile with a union than if you don't have one.
I suggest we consult with our buddy Jack. He knows all and will lead us to total truth by the end of the evening. Too bad he charges so much in the Sports Bar for such consultation
Ferd
But seriously, they are willing to go direct if they can but they are also more than willing to stay on the published route. But, as to your point, remember they have shown how much they love us with the JCBA, how did the second offer look. I stand by my opinion.....there is no way they are going to show other employee groups that they are more flexibile with a union than if you don't have one.
I suggest we consult with our buddy Jack. He knows all and will lead us to total truth by the end of the evening. Too bad he charges so much in the Sports Bar for such consultation
Ferd
06-13-2012, 07:57 PM
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That's a common misconception I see being thrown out. The JPWA was in the spring of 2008. The whole world was melting down. From the time of the first offer to the time of the second offer, the economic picture was even more dire. Things are a bit more rosy right now.
Asia stocks fall after Europe debt turmoil worsens: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money
Moody's slashes Spain debt ratings three notches: Thomson Reuters Business News - MSN Money
06-13-2012, 08:04 PM
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That's a common misconception I see being thrown out. The JPWA was in the spring of 2008. The whole world was melting down. From the time of the first offer to the time of the second offer, the economic picture was even more dire. Things are a bit more rosy right now.
Oh Buzz will kill me for that one.....
Just kidding Buzz, the bald prophet of doom at CNN says the same things.
06-13-2012, 08:07 PM
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Are they really? All the money guys I see on here continue to say "It's going to get worse before it gets better". Now I say I've been hearing that for years but.......
Asia stocks fall after Europe debt turmoil worsens: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money
Moody's slashes Spain debt ratings three notches: Thomson Reuters Business News - MSN Money
Asia stocks fall after Europe debt turmoil worsens: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money
Moody's slashes Spain debt ratings three notches: Thomson Reuters Business News - MSN Money
06-13-2012, 08:08 PM
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Are they really? All the money guys I see on here continue to say "It's going to get worse before it gets better". Now I say I've been hearing that for years but.......
Asia stocks fall after Europe debt turmoil worsens: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money
Moody's slashes Spain debt ratings three notches: Thomson Reuters Business News - MSN Money
Asia stocks fall after Europe debt turmoil worsens: Associated Press Business News - MSN Money
Moody's slashes Spain debt ratings three notches: Thomson Reuters Business News - MSN Money
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