Dal came to us!!!
06-09-2012, 10:55 AM
#121
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
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Sorry Jack but I disagree with the short term gain part. How is taking flying from DCI and bringing it to mainline a short term gain? Block hours are a direct correlation to to the amount of jobs. More jobs means less stagnation.
I guess if you think ALPA will sign away the ratio, you might have a point. I just don't see that happening.
Denny
I guess if you think ALPA will sign away the ratio, you might have a point. I just don't see that happening.
Denny
The 325 will only last until the next time we get a small raise, work rule reductions, catch shiny jet syndrome and/or need to help the company out of the bad decision of outsourcing in aircraft too small to be profitable. When will that be? Probably 2015.
We don't have to add a single block hour to Delta and meet the 1.56 ratio once we go to DCI 450/325. So in exchange for zero guarantee of increase block hours we'd increase the outsourcing on aircraft that threaten to substitute mainline aircraft the most.
That's what this PWA does offer that the TA doesn't not, a 255 cap limit on those large RJs, period. Done.
We don't have to add a single block hour to Delta and meet the 1.56 ratio once we go to DCI 450/325. So in exchange for zero guarantee of increase block hours we'd increase the outsourcing on aircraft that threaten to substitute mainline aircraft the most.
That's what this PWA does offer that the TA doesn't not, a 255 cap limit on those large RJs, period. Done.
06-09-2012, 11:09 AM
#122
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
OK tough guy. Give 80 knots or ACL your real name and the bet's on. I can stand on my head for 20 days and not visit this cess pool for 1 large and a nice case of wine... bring it. When I get a PM that they have your real name the bet's on. You welch, and everybody is gonna know who and what you are too...
Easy money.
Amarone.... Santi. We get a nice discount at duty free in Rome. Last time I bought it it was 35 Euro.
I'll take a check too.
Easy money.
Amarone.... Santi. We get a nice discount at duty free in Rome. Last time I bought it it was 35 Euro.
I'll take a check too.
Still waiting for my PM from a mod....
I'll let you off the hook a little. Just pay me the equivalent of the cost of the wine, and I'll go buy my own. $500 ought to do it, but I will gladly refund any difference. I am taking enough advantage of you in even entertaining this stupid bet to begin with. But wow, just think, if YOU win, you could buy a TON of beer for $1500. Be sure to get your lottery ticket tonight too.. Of course I stick to my philosophies of never gambling (I can stay away from here until the results are announced.. easy) and never betting on anything with a brain. This will be the easiest money I have ever made. It's not too late.. still wanna play?
06-09-2012, 11:20 AM
#123
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Position: 767er Captain
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I think the merger/acquisition goal is Hawaiian. The basis for my opinion is a conversation that I had with one of our NC at a roadshow. I won't go into the details of my conversation. The conversation didn't involve mergers. I went home and put a couple of ACL's connecting the dots together and I ended up at Hawaiian. It fits too nicely.
If they wanted Alaska, the Company would have protected the Q400X. They didn't. Alaska is too big from an anti-trust position.
They want Hawaiian. Haneda, AC types, anchors far east operation. It's too small to cause anti-trust concerns.
They also want the AMR assets that the PBGC has placed a lien upon.
They will just let Alaska fester for a little while longer.
I think they want us locked up in order to go for Hawaiian.
If they wanted Alaska, the Company would have protected the Q400X. They didn't. Alaska is too big from an anti-trust position.
They want Hawaiian. Haneda, AC types, anchors far east operation. It's too small to cause anti-trust concerns.
They also want the AMR assets that the PBGC has placed a lien upon.
They will just let Alaska fester for a little while longer.
I think they want us locked up in order to go for Hawaiian.
06-09-2012, 11:25 AM
#124
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 7ERB
Posts: 2,039
Yeah, I think that's the most likely next move. Just a couple more minor dots... I was told that six of HAL's 767-300's used to be ours pre-bankruptcy, so they are an easy fit. Not sure if they are ER's or not. Also just noticed that their DC contribution is 15% for new hires, which will match with ours if the TA goes through. Doesn't mean much, just another point of compatibility. I do like the looks of their route map.
Ten
06-09-2012, 11:29 AM
#125
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Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 7ERB
Posts: 2,039
T,
Please chill out man. You are beginning to sound like that charlatan gold pusher with the high and tight
I disagree with your yes vote completely. I disagree with your defense of a yes vote. However, I respect your points and I try to understand your points, respectfully. When you lash out like this, it makes me wonder of your motifs and why you are so emotional.
Keep the piece and be level headed.
TEN
Please chill out man. You are beginning to sound like that charlatan gold pusher with the high and tight
I disagree with your yes vote completely. I disagree with your defense of a yes vote. However, I respect your points and I try to understand your points, respectfully. When you lash out like this, it makes me wonder of your motifs and why you are so emotional.
Keep the piece and be level headed.
TEN
06-09-2012, 12:35 PM
#126
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Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
T,
Please chill out man. You are beginning to sound like that charlatan gold pusher with the high and tight
I disagree with your yes vote completely. I disagree with your defense of a yes vote. However, I respect your points and I try to understand your points, respectfully. When you lash out like this, it makes me wonder of your motifs and why you are so emotional.
Keep the piece and be level headed.
TEN
Please chill out man. You are beginning to sound like that charlatan gold pusher with the high and tight
I disagree with your yes vote completely. I disagree with your defense of a yes vote. However, I respect your points and I try to understand your points, respectfully. When you lash out like this, it makes me wonder of your motifs and why you are so emotional.
Keep the piece and be level headed.
TEN
06-09-2012, 03:41 PM
#128
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Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
The Manager...
Still waiting for my PM from a mod....
I'll let you off the hook a little. Just pay me the equivalent of the cost of the wine, and I'll go buy my own. $500 ought to do it, but I will gladly refund any difference. I am taking enough advantage of you in even entertaining this stupid bet to begin with. But wow, just think, if YOU win, you could buy a TON of beer for $1500. Be sure to get your lottery ticket tonight too.. Of course I stick to my philosophies of never gambling (I can stay away from here until the results are announced.. easy) and never betting on anything with a brain. This will be the easiest money I have ever made. It's not too late.. still wanna play?
Still waiting for my PM from a mod....
I'll let you off the hook a little. Just pay me the equivalent of the cost of the wine, and I'll go buy my own. $500 ought to do it, but I will gladly refund any difference. I am taking enough advantage of you in even entertaining this stupid bet to begin with. But wow, just think, if YOU win, you could buy a TON of beer for $1500. Be sure to get your lottery ticket tonight too.. Of course I stick to my philosophies of never gambling (I can stay away from here until the results are announced.. easy) and never betting on anything with a brain. This will be the easiest money I have ever made. It's not too late.. still wanna play?
Send me a PM if you don't wanna back out publicly... I'm good with that, and your secret will remain a secret..
06-09-2012, 03:53 PM
#129
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 521
Unbelievable.
Once again....this is not a private DAL forum. If you want to have only DAL pilots commenting, you're hanging out in the wrong place.
06-09-2012, 03:53 PM
#130
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,947
Just checking back Manager. Please hurry up and take the bet. I have tired of this place and I am looking for a really good reason to not come back. Since.. as Jack Bauer says, all I am interested in is the money... this would be the perfect excuse.
Send me a PM if you don't wanna back out publicly... I'm good with that, and your secret will remain a secret..
Send me a PM if you don't wanna back out publicly... I'm good with that, and your secret will remain a secret..
If 50 seaters are going to be parked anyway, then why use a single iota of leverage to make sure they head to the desert when that will take care of itself?
If someone posts that they want to take a break from this forum, why would someone use their money to give that person a thousand dollars and wine when they will go take a break anyway?
But, maybe The Manager is off buying the goods as we speak.
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