Superdad

I saw this on another board, unbelievable:

Guys I believe this is hugely important so I cut and paste the reasoning from the Council 1 reps for those not in the council who may not have seen their letter today:

"For the record, your LEC reps (Steve and Ron) voted “No,” meaning “do not send it to the pilots.” You may wonder why we voted not to send the agreement out for member ratification, and the answer is simply that the TA did not meet your Council 1 direction to us. We are elected to represent you. Through phone calls; e-mails; text messages; face-to-face conversations at LEC meetings, lounge visits, and PUB events; and, yes, the contract survey, you gave your direction to us, and the agreement simply does not meet that direction."

Take the time to digest that statement. These guys saw the survey results and they believe that the TA does not meet the direction given to ALPA through the survey.

Very disappointing, I never thought I would say it but I cannot support this organization any longer.


VOTE NO!!!

80ktsClamp

Yep.. this thing undershot the contract survey. Absolutely amazing... the sales job is coming!

TenYearsGone

Kudos to Steve and Ron and the other NO reps, stones to the rest of the political koolaid drinking chickens RECALL FAST!

TEN

shiznit

So, the other 14 guys who also saw that info must have not have been paying ANY attention?

I mean that would lead me to believe that roughly 9000 pilots had reps that don't look out for them...

Wow. 14 reps were really against their own pilots? That is crazy... Who is in charge of picking reps?

NERD

No, just good soldiers falling in line. As a North pilot I admired the way the South MEC was cohesive(at least in public) in the SIL vs the constant sniping that we had. Not so much now. They could have done better and we deserve better. Disappointed...

crewdawg52

What a novel idea.................. LEC reps actually representing the ideas and wishes of those who put them in office, and not being sheep led to LM's den!

Kudos for ya'll!!

rvr350

Yep, Steve and Ron have held up their job as our representative for our base. Now it's up to us to determine how we'll vote.

DeadHead

Does anyone know where we can go to get the official source on how each rep voted?
Not doubting anyone here, I just want to see it in writing so these sheep can't hide from there decisions.

Herkflyr

I respect these NO voters no more--and no less--than the rest of the MEC. They did what they are supposed to do. They participated in vigorous debate, examined the details of the TA, and then asked themselves, "is this TA worthy of my yes vote to send to the membership for ratification?"

After asking that question, and considering all the aspects of the TA, the answer for them was clearly "NO."

That is great! But if the answer was "Yes" then that would have been great too.

To say that no voters are somehow more "noble" than the yes voters is childish thinking. That's like saying your fellow citizen is less a citizen because they voted for a different candidate than you did for senator, president, etc.

What matters is did the reps take their job seriously and vote accordingly? They absolutely did in this case and I respect the hell out of them for doing so, and didn't fall in line for the sake of a "united front" or something like that. That is all that the membership should require.

Herkflyr

Uh...every one of these reps will be in the lounges talking to their pilot groups for the next several weeks--no hiding.

I love your statement "not doubting anyone..." then immediately following it with an insult.

I'm inclined to vote against this TA, but I won't demonize those who won't think the way I tell them they should think.