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Old 10-25-2011, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90

The transcript may be wrong. When I listened to the webcast this morning I swear I heard "dc-9 AND less efficient regional a/c."
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
The transcript may be wrong. When I listened to the webcast this morning I swear I heard "dc-9 AND less efficient regional a/c."
Hoser, I bet you're right. That would make more sense in the context, and typically they lump those two together so we don't feel so bad when they park the 9s. Thanks.
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Hoser, I bet you're right. That would make more sense in the context, and typically they lump those two together so we don't feel so bad when they park the 9s. Thanks.
Semi-related note but does anyone have handy the DC9 and MD90 operating costs?

I'm just wondering if an MD90 put on a DC9 route, segment by segment (not CASM) is the same cost or cheaper. IOW, even though the 90 has 30ish more seats than the 9, if the total cost to fly the same segment was the same or less on the 90, that would be added capacity (on a 1 for 1 basis) that wouldn't saturate the bottom line as we could always cap the fare buckets to match the 9 and only sell the extra seats in the 90 at the highest bucket only during peak times and/or irop relief.
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Old 10-26-2011, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Semi-related note but does anyone have handy the DC9 and MD90 operating costs?

I'm just wondering if an MD90 put on a DC9 route, segment by segment (not CASM) is the same cost or cheaper. IOW, even though the 90 has 30ish more seats than the 9, if the total cost to fly the same segment was the same or less on the 90, that would be added capacity (on a 1 for 1 basis) that wouldn't saturate the bottom line as we could always cap the fare buckets to match the 9 and only sell the extra seats in the 90 at the highest bucket only during peak times and/or irop relief.
I think that's the plan with the 90 although it may not be the 90 doing the route but the 88 which is 20 or so seats off of the DC95.
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Originally Posted by Clear Right
I have no dog in the Delta vs Alaska debate, however perhaps you should do some research. According to MIT Alaska pilots average close to $8,000 per year more than Delta. Considering they don't have the wide body folks skewing the scale to the high end, I would say they do quite well. MIT link below:

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0PERSONNEL.htm

Their hourly rates are lower, so they're either flying more days per month or have better rigs. Point was their hourly rates are lower.

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Originally Posted by johnso29
That's the same guy that says SWA CA's earn $166,000 a year.

He actually states the average pilot salary at SW is 166,000 per year which is a correct number.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
He actually states the average pilot salary at SW is 166,000 per year which is a correct number.
That he does. It isn't divided between CA & FO. Thanks for the correction.

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Old 10-26-2011, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
He actually states the average pilot salary at SW is 166,000 per year which is a correct number.
Thanks Ed, or is it Richard?
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
He actually states the average pilot salary at SW is 166,000 per year which is a correct number.
Why do you continue to shill for a discredited study by a discredited partisan author? What is it that you gain from touting false data?

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Why do you continue to shill for a discredited study by a discredited partisan author? What is it that you gain from touting false data?

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Based on stated W-2's from SWA guys, average Captain makes $230,000... average FO makes $160,000, meaning average pilot salary is $195,000. I have no reason to doubt the SWA guys' integrity, and it's been a consistent number from many of them. So, yeah, $166,000 seems very low.

Oh, and don't forget the SWA welcome packet to AirTran pilots!
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