Delta posts $765M profit in 3Q
01-01-2012, 03:34 PM
#131
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Click on the link below, then in the box "Union Name by Abbreviation" select Airline Pilots Association from the dropdown menu. Then on the bottom from the box "Report Type" select LM-2, then hit submit. When the report list populates, select the last one 000-179 2010 Report.
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01-01-2012, 04:11 PM
#132
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Nope, you are wrong, they don't get FPL for any of the LEC business Ron mentioned, which is what takes up most of their time. If you doubt me, call your rep and find out. They get paid what they hold and what they bid, just like every other line pilot. If they get FPL, it's for MEC business, such as an MEC meeting or lounge visit. Most of the work they do they do without any compensation.
01-01-2012, 04:20 PM
#133
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Nope, you are wrong, they don't get FPL for any of the LEC business Ron mentioned, which is what takes up most of their time. If you doubt me, call your rep and find out. They get paid what they hold and what they bid, just like every other line pilot. If they get FPL, it's for MEC business, such as an MEC meeting or lounge visit. Most of the work they do they do without any compensation.
01-01-2012, 04:46 PM
#135
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A question for you: Why would anyone acting as a spokesman for DALPA (such as Pineapple Guy) parrot the company's "commuting is a choice" line? How does that further our goal of improving our QOL?
More to the point: If DALPA publicly rolls over for the company on matters such as this, what must they be sandbagging behind closed doors?
DALPA's track record of obstructionism, obfuscation, and a complete lack of transparency only furthers one's doubt.
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01-01-2012, 06:19 PM
#136
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So will DPA establish a PAC if they ever take the reins? I can only imagine how much access THAT war chest will buy. (Disclaimer: I give not one red cent to PACs because I believe they are the fundamental reason that our country is as ****ed up politically as it is)
01-02-2012, 05:26 AM
#137
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I don't know about your reps but mine have been in the lounge constantly for the last two month answering questions. I have known several reps over the years. They work far harder then any line pilot ever does. Most burn out on the work schedule and go back to the line for a vacation. If there is a issue with pay for our Dalpa reps and other workers its that we don't pay them enough. I am lazy enough that I would not consider union work for 150 hours pay per month.
01-02-2012, 05:45 AM
#138
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The absolute pinnacle of ALPA arrogance. "Here at ALPA, we work so much harder than you lazy slobs can ever begin to fathom."
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
01-02-2012, 06:35 AM
#139
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The absolute pinnacle of ALPA arrogance. "Here at ALPA, we work so much harder than you lazy slobs can ever begin to fathom."
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
To make a statement like that...wow. I know it's hard for you to believe, but some of us have other jobs or other circumstances outside of flying that (gasp) might entail work. Sometimes, even hard work.
For you to make such a sweeping (and utterly bogus) generalization like that only reinforces how out-of-touch the DALPA bureaucracy has grown.
Your logic chain is a non-sequitur.
I took Sailings post as Reps work harder than line pilots work (for Delta air lines)...While his premise is not sound, he did not qualify the statement as work in total.
He isn't part of the DALPA bureaucracy, just a DALPA defender.
Is it your premise that standing up a new union will not require work - at the same level of the "DALPA bureaucracy" or is this simply a stone throwing contest? Do you hate your career so much that you just want to burn everything down?
I want ALPA gone yesterday, but honestly, YOU do not represent my interests. I get Carl and agree with almost everything he says, but you are far too fringe for my taste. Your rhetoric is hollow.
01-02-2012, 08:09 AM
#140
seeing the large hubs...
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And a fair amount of the flying that he did have (his plane is overstaffed, it wasn't a ton) had was YS, so it's not like he's trying to avoid work. In fact, he ended up with a long trip that had him flying from before Christmas and until after New Year's. Sounds cushy.
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