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Old 10-01-2011, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
They may not be able to find their own arse - agreed - but as it stands today, they are almost 700 pilots short and it's only gonna get worse when 50-100 leave on Nov 1 (the last of the big retirement dates.) Believe me - barring another 9/11 or some catastrophic event - this place is gonna be hiring like gangbusters in the next few years. And that's just based on retirements - doesn't take into account the huge training bubble that will accumulate from all the new aircraft deliveries.
Agreed we're short, but at least up till now, management has believed they can cover the schedule just fine.

It would seem running their pilots into the ground is a workable business strategy for them.
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Old 10-01-2011, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Agreed we're short, but at least up till now, management has believed they can cover the schedule just fine.

It would seem running their pilots into the ground is a workable business strategy for them.
After your posts over the past few years it's funny to see you jumped to the mainline side. With that said, congrats
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Old 10-01-2011, 06:07 PM
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I heard Eagle is still hiring.
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Old 10-02-2011, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
They may not be able to find their own arse - agreed - but as it stands today, they are almost 700 pilots short and it's only gonna get worse when 50-100 leave on Nov 1 (the last of the big retirement dates.) Believe me - barring another 9/11 or some catastrophic event - this place is gonna be hiring like gangbusters in the next few years. And that's just based on retirements - doesn't take into account the huge training bubble that will accumulate from all the new aircraft deliveries.
New aircraft deliveries? Yeah, right. Given the finances of AMR, I wouldn't deliver them a pizza if I were Dominoes. I don't think Boeing/Airbus will accept food stamps.

Sure, the numbers look like they need to hire. But that assumes they want to maintain, or perhaps (gasp), actually grow the airline. No f'n way. They're going to squeeze every last ounce of blood from this stone, then cry uncle and run for BK.

Somebody asked: Luckily, I'm in a position where I can defer, and will watch this train wreck from afar.

My sympathies to those of you that AAre along for the ride.
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:19 AM
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New aircraft deliveries? Yeah, right. Given the finances of AMR, I wouldn't deliver them a pizza if I were Dominoes. I don't think Boeing/Airbus will accept food stamps.

Sure, the numbers look like they need to hire. But that assumes they want to maintain, or perhaps (gasp), actually grow the airline. No f'n way. They're going to squeeze every last ounce of blood from this stone, then cry uncle and run for BK.

Somebody asked: Luckily, I'm in a position where I can defer, and will watch this train wreck from afar.

My sympathies to those of you that AAre along for the ride.
They were going to accept LEASES on 120 A320s, and they have close to $5 billion in cash. Some of their MD80s are getting really old, and leases mean you don't have to buy them in cash, just rent. But, according to the pilot contract, they cannot even accept a lease until they already have a payrate negotiated for that particular plane in the contract, and the APA rightfully says NO until a full contract is done.
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Old 10-02-2011, 08:22 AM
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The official list published by AA Flt.Dept. is 128.
The most senior pilot was seniority #9.
The most junior pilot was seniority #8672.

Seniority:
0-999 - 56
1K - 29
2K - 18
3K - 5
4K - 8
5K - 4
6K - 2
7K - 0
8K - 1
No seniority listed - 5

Aircraft/seat:
777CA - 29
777FO - 3
767CA - 40
767FO - 3
737CA - 12
737FO - 0
S80CA - 29
S80FO - 3
No Bid Status listed - 9

Base:
DFW - 33
ORD - 20
LGA - 19
LAX - 17
MIA - 16
SFO - 7
STL - 6
BOS - 5
DCA - 5
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bleedairpacks
My bp has gone down 20 points since I retired.
That is a great statement ! Congrats my friend...
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Old 10-03-2011, 05:55 PM
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AMR stock plunges on renewed bankruptcy fears - Yahoo! Finance

So...
The old dogs:


Meanwhile, the possible future new hires...
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:03 PM
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I know the buyer for AA.

Hint: Begins with the letter "O" and it's not Oprah.
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PaintCan
I know the buyer for AA.

Hint: Begins with the letter "O" and it's not Oprah.
Obama, Omni, Orakle, or Oscar the Grouch? Come on, tell us....
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