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Old 09-27-2006, 08:11 PM
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I have an interview coming up with FedEx. I feel pretty good about myself except when it comes to check rides. I have flown 4 a/c at my current job and have busted three of the four checkrides/type rides. I have to admit I do not do well at subjective tests, but always do well on writtens. I have never busted the same check ride twice. I correct what needs to be done, and the re-test goes fine. Also, I have never had a problem with IOE, never busted a recurrent PC, never had a problem on a line check, never had an accident or incident, never been violated, and have never been pulled off line for any reason.

How do I mention the busted check rides without coming across as a moron?
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:30 PM
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My advice would be to try and spin the busted checkrides as learning experiences. "I learned this..." or "Looking back I would have done this differently..." Might be tough to do with 3 busts but at least its a jumping off point. I'm sure it would come up in an interview and at least it gives you way to lead off talking about it in a positive manner. Always emphasize the positive.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:31 PM
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Have you had to disclose to them yet, on an application/phone interview/anything else that you have failed any checkrides?

If you have already admitted to failing checkride(s) and they still want to interview you then they probably are looking for a reasonable explanation.

If no, then unfortunately they may look at you as a training liability
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:03 PM
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Don't bring it up and if you're obliged to talk about it, don't blame anyone else and like the earlier poster notes, spin it into a learning experience.
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:42 AM
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Sounds as if you'll fit in real well at FedEx.
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Old 09-28-2006, 08:23 AM
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Thanks. All comments/suggestions are welcome. Unfortunately, when asked on the application I must answer honestly. As far as I know, most airlines interviewing inquire about checkrides. I wish there was an easy way to go about it.
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Any info you can give about your M&G date and interview dates is appreciated.

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Old 09-28-2006, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by L'il J.Seinfeld
Sounds as if you'll fit in real well at FedEx.
If he becomes a flight manager.
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:14 AM
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Hey don't worry about it, Life happens just because you fail doesn't mean you can't fly. I failed 3 three rides, working for a National. During interview, if asked like the guy said earlier, accept responsibility.

To tell you the truth after the ones I've busted the Examiner would sit down with me and teach different techniques to make life easier in the cockpit in relation to the manuevers I've busted on vs. the ones I've passed straight were they say good job and here's your ticket.

Besides it shows you are trainable, didn't give up, and in the mean time if any rides do come up pass them get a good track record going again.

When I interviewed with American Eagle, They didn't like the 3 busts I had considering I failed a PC then passed one after then interviewed. The lady told me to get a consistent track record going again after a I gave a poor response as to why I failed 3.

On the Application put, for example, Failed Single Engine Private Pilot Checkride during the Soft Field Take Off, I did not extend 10 degrees of Flap IAW the Practical Test Standards. I Retrained and passed on the Second attempt.

Leave the learning experience for the interview.

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Contact Aaron Hagan at Emerald Coast Interview Consulting. He does an excellent job helping folks with things just like this! I used ECIC for my interview prep, and I thought it was worth the dough.
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