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11-06-2011, 02:41 AM

#101

727gm

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Position: B744 FO

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Originally Posted by Scoop

the mission

Stopping it when it's called "the mission" may affect actually doing so...

11-06-2011, 07:55 AM

#102

Moose

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Position: 737 FO

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Originally Posted by NavyAACAL

It is amazing to me that the test group of thousands of pilots were never ask "what fatigued them the most?" and that free test subject data analized and used in developing the most LOGICAL rest rules for the majority.

Analized! That would be fatiguing!

11-06-2011, 06:50 PM

#103

Sniper

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

The best I ever felt as a airline pilot was flying 10 hour turns.

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Originally Posted by MusicPilot

It's the sits that beat you up.

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Originally Posted by hoover

If I have to be away might as well be sitting in the cockpit than sitting in the airport not getting paid.

All 3 of the above posters speak to the same thing the science says - it's the duty time that's fatiguing. Limit the duty time, and you limit the ridiculous sits. There is no scientific evidence showing flight time is fatiguing - primarily b/c it's apparently never been studied (which surprises me - no study on the effect of flying on fatigue, really?).

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Originally Posted by NavyAACAL

CAPA and ALPA (represents 95% of US professional airline pilots) were part of the ARC that developed the rules, 'NavyAACAL'. Every carrier's union leadership already knows what fatigues their group most. Would a survey really yield any new information on this issue that the scheduling committees of the various carriers don't already know?

11-06-2011, 08:22 PM

#104

nightrider

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Were scheduled for 11/22 now moved to 11/30 I assume that's 2011

11-07-2011, 04:34 AM

#105

lionflyer

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Originally Posted by nightrider

Were scheduled for 11/22 now moved to 11/30 I assume that's 2011

They will probably wait until the holidays are over. I hope they're not trying to sweep this under the rug because it sure seems like it.

11-07-2011, 04:48 PM

#106

NavyAACAL

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Position: FO 757/767

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper

Every carrier's union leadership already knows what fatigues their group most. Would a survey really yield any new information on this issue that the scheduling committees of the various carriers don't already know?

So now they can read my mind. If this is so true then why does it seemed they missed the mark! Yes a survey would give data directly from the group vice what the "Union" ASSumes to know.