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Old 06-07-2011, 10:09 PM
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:12 PM
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Hey guys,

Anyone have a clue when the 320 training will actually begin in ATL ? And like others have pointed out, sims do NOT like to be moved...at all.

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The sims may not like to be moved, but in reality they don't really need to work at all....Remember if you are a true professional all that matters is if you have your double breasted jacket buttoned, your shoes shine your hat on and the gear pins in.....and by the way the emperor is still naked!
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Originally Posted by TOGA LK
My opinion of training is that it's a non-negotiable, fixed or increasing cost that is required. I'd rather see this company implode than operate with inadequate training.
It's not rocket surgery. I'd rather them save money there and pay us more.
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Just a mention that the company is cracking down on violations of its social media policy. Some posting in various threads on here might do well to read it. It could save someones job.
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Virginia Ave is down right dangerous after dark. I made the mistake once of walking back from training to the former training "hotel" ("motel, hotel, Holiday Inn"...you do the rap) at about 1:00 AM. NOT a good idea. If we're gonna consolidate all the training at HQ ATL, DAL needs to step up with some area security. Currently, its abysmal. Two years ago, I was staying at another hotel in the vicinity because the training place was full and 12 cars were jacked one night. Downtown might be an option but that adds 20-30 minutes to the ride. I'm all for cutting costs but at what cost?
I got chased down in downtown last time I had an overnight there 3 years ago. Never seen anything like it.

Well, there was one time I was staying downtown at a hotel and someone had a bad "trip." I was with a gaggle of folks some of whom walked into the traffic and brought cars to a stop to escape this person running down the street in significant head pain.

Then there is that dragoncon thing, you actually feel safe downtown although its overcrowded with storm troopers marching down the street, ferries, conan the barbarian types, a guy walking on all fours, darth vadar and my favorite, chewbacca.

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Worth it. I'd take Buckhead or midtown and its associated rush hour traffic over that dump of an area any day. 20-30 minutes is 100% insignificant of a "cost" if it meant a better area for us than that dumpster.
Probably too expensive, they need to find something south on 85 which has a lot less traffic issues than anything north or down 75.

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Just a mention that the company is cracking down on violations of its social media policy. Some posting in various threads on here might do well to read it. It could save someones job.
I'm with you given some posts but I can't see that complaining about VA Ave shouldn't be a violation of their policy. We're not complaining about or talking about which hotel, just that any hotel in that area is going to have issues and if we're going to significantly increase the volume of pilots coming down for training then an alternative needs to found because it will continue to be a topic of conversation and a distraction.
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Originally Posted by Rudder
Didn't they just redo the FA training facility in MSP? Wonder what changed in the interum time frame? How many sims are there in MSP? Still do not see how ATL can handle the whole load. Anyone know how big Alaska's training center is and where it/they are? Assuming SEA but do not know.
Yes, they just spent a fortune moving the FA training facility and all the mock-ups to Bldg N and completely renovating that floor. Wonder what changed. I also wonder how long it will take to recoup the cost of moving all of those sims to ATL. Where will they put them?
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Yes, they just spent a fortune moving the FA training facility and all the mock-ups to Bldg N and completely renovating that floor. Wonder what changed. I also wonder how long it will take to recoup the cost of moving all of those sims to ATL. Where will they put them?
I think Nosmo mentioned 12 sims to be moved in the L&G thread, if that's right:

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There are 12 bays in ATL that will be available. 8 currently are open and 4 more are occupied by a 732 sim, 2 MD11 sims and 1 L1011 sims.

Those sims are housed in 3 buildings (OC1 oldest, OC2 next to it and home of the 4th floor, OC3 across the street and new with newest sims) and "Delta Training Center" with the FTDs. As far as the CAPT type FTDs there are 29 rooms upstairs of which 16 or 17 could be made vacant.

The level 2 FTDs downstairs are a different matter. There are 3 spots down there where stuff could be moved out and new ones put in but there just rooms not really bays so it's not like other office and classrooms couldn't be reallocated.

Now I say all of this not to say "HEY, IT'S BETTER THAN NATCO DOWN HERE!" Because frankly I only heard great things about NATCO but there is room.

What I'd like to see is pilot new hire classroom and the OC1, 2 and Training Building refurbished and improved. Especially the new hire room, BB needs to be given a better more professional looking classroom to indoctrinate our new hires, just saying, he and they deserve it. Delta has a nice facility, just needs some love.
Go look at like MD88 initial training on Deltanet, it has a map of all of the facilities.
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