Delta Ponders Pilot Sources
04-25-2011, 01:00 AM
#131
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Oh well off to SMF and a middle seat DH home. See ya..
Hey what are you doing for a job now?
04-25-2011, 07:43 AM
#133
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04-25-2011, 08:04 AM
#134
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Definition of a well paying job.
Incase YOU didn't know, there are more kids in law school right now, then there are lawyers practicing law at this very second. The average lawyer 2010 salary in the US was pegged at USD 90,300 p.a. by the Bureau of Labour Statistics. There will NEVER be a shortage of well qualified candidates for well paying jobs.
I was at a dinner party last night where a firefighter told me that he earns 90K before overtime and can fully retire at age 53. The guy might never earn the big time wages of a legacy airline pilot but his house will be paid off by then and he will get a fat retirement check for the rest of his life.
By my estimation he has a better deal than most legacy airline pilots.
Skyhigh
04-25-2011, 08:10 AM
#135
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USP is 27K salary the first year.
CAL pays 27 per hr and change their first year and no medical for six months.
SWA, DAL, and FedEx all pay from 55-60 their first year.
Go look up first year pay on this site. Even majors can pay a horrible wage for first year pilots.
CAL pays 27 per hr and change their first year and no medical for six months.
SWA, DAL, and FedEx all pay from 55-60 their first year.
Go look up first year pay on this site. Even majors can pay a horrible wage for first year pilots.
04-25-2011, 11:20 AM
#136
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Sky, you never discuss ATC !!! Six figure income for most of the career for the top ATC facilities, and age 50 retirement. No student loans (well, generally not required), government medical, full social security for some (like me, assuming its around), life insurance, no days away from home, except that initial training.
I want ATC to be your new post office job. But, first year salary for me was $18k.
I want ATC to be your new post office job. But, first year salary for me was $18k.
04-25-2011, 05:26 PM
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OBW, mil numbers continue to shrink. Not sure how this folds into the projections. I truly feel for the USAF guys who get 2000hrs of flight time: 600 in fighters and 1400 in Preds! How does Pred time go on an airline app? 
That said, mil leadership recognizes the upcoming airline pilot "requirement" (won't use the term shortage) but doesn't have the cash to pay people to stay. Manning cuts, flight hrs, more deployments, IA's...the leading edge of a pilot exit plan is coming soon.
SHould be an interested few years in ALL of the Aviation world...
That said, mil leadership recognizes the upcoming airline pilot "requirement" (won't use the term shortage) but doesn't have the cash to pay people to stay. Manning cuts, flight hrs, more deployments, IA's...the leading edge of a pilot exit plan is coming soon.
SHould be an interested few years in ALL of the Aviation world...
04-25-2011, 05:40 PM
#138
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I think that people mainly look at salary when evaluating a career. Pension and other benefits can play an ever larger role in overall wealth building. A pilot might be able to knock down 138K for the decade prior to 65 but much of that goes to the federal government and to pay back debt accumulated during the prior decades the thin wages.
I was at a dinner party last night where a firefighter told me that he earns 90K before overtime and can fully retire at age 53. The guy might never earn the big time wages of a legacy airline pilot but his house will be paid off by then and he will get a fat retirement check for the rest of his life.
By my estimation he has a better deal than most legacy airline pilots.
Skyhigh
I was at a dinner party last night where a firefighter told me that he earns 90K before overtime and can fully retire at age 53. The guy might never earn the big time wages of a legacy airline pilot but his house will be paid off by then and he will get a fat retirement check for the rest of his life.
By my estimation he has a better deal than most legacy airline pilots.
Skyhigh
04-26-2011, 10:22 PM
#139
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Skills
Maybe. But I believe there are economic and political forces at work which have the potential to significantly curtail the days of "government cheese". And I further believe the best way to succeed in the economy of the future is to have some sort of high level skill. I believe pilots beat mailmen in that regard, and probably firefighters and police, too. I feel pretty good about where I am. I could just be wrong, though.
Skyhigh
04-26-2011, 10:25 PM
#140
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Atc
Sky, you never discuss ATC !!! Six figure income for most of the career for the top ATC facilities, and age 50 retirement. No student loans (well, generally not required), government medical, full social security for some (like me, assuming its around), life insurance, no days away from home, except that initial training.
I want ATC to be your new post office job. But, first year salary for me was $18k.
I want ATC to be your new post office job. But, first year salary for me was $18k.
Skyhigh
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