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Old 04-13-2011, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Thanks Whidbey...that's exactly what I've been trying to say. I'm just not as eloquent as you.

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Hook, line and sinker! You nailed it Carl... finally. Now put this ****ing post to bed.... or get back to constructive arguments. We all agree that Regionals (pay in particular) suck and that the world would be a better place if the flying went back to the mainline. BUT..... for all of the less fortunate ( to that of KING Carl ) that UNfortunately have pursued this career now, when times are different (then when KING Carl joined in) and YES, the mainlines do like to see 121 time on the resume during a market that yields 1 position for every 1,000 that apply... maybe, just maybe, a regional position is one of the few "available" positions we can take to stay CURRENT, remain ATTRACTIVE and continue to build our EXPERIENCE!

I need another Beer... Carl you tire me!
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rance
Hook, line and sinker! You nailed it Carl... finally. Now put this ****ing post to bed.... or get back to constructive arguments. We all agree that Regionals (pay in particular) suck and that the world would be a better place if the flying went back to the mainline. BUT..... for all of the less fortunate ( to that of KING Carl ) that UNfortunately have pursued this career now, when times are different (then when KING Carl joined in) and YES, the mainlines do like to see 121 time on the resume during a market that yields 1 position for every 1,000 that apply... maybe, just maybe, a regional position is one of the few "available" positions we can take to stay CURRENT, remain ATTRACTIVE and continue to build our EXPERIENCE!

I need another Beer... Carl you tire me!
I know how tough it must be for you to hear the truth. You're not used to it. You're only used to the echo chamber of how much major pilots have ruined your life and your career. And how major pilots have forced you to stay at the regionals under horrible pay because there's no other way to become qualified for a major.

It's good to get out of the echo chamber from time to time. I'm here for you Rance.

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Old 04-13-2011, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
"In my class, there were 60% military, 20% furloughed from other airlines (I was in that group), and 20% flew for commuter airlines."

Assuming these numbers are fairly representative of your company, I rest my case.
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What case would that be?

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My case was that part 91 and 135 pilots rarely get hired. Realistically for civilians, THE way to get to the majors is via a regional.

Yes, I do see the irony: only by replacing a mainline pilot, can I earn the experience the mainline hiring teams want.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
My case was that part 91 and 135 pilots rarely get hired. Realistically for civilians, THE way to get to the majors is via a regional.

Yes, I do see the irony: only by replacing a mainline pilot, can I earn the experience the mainline hiring teams want.
So before the Regionals where so Big and before they had jets, where did the Majors get their pilots? (besides the Military)

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Old 04-13-2011, 08:28 PM
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Just curious.

Does Chautauqua do any flying for Frontier?
FAA certificate says DBA Frontier.

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Old 04-13-2011, 08:32 PM
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I'm here for you Rance.

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I think I am starting to understand you Carl. You actually made me laugh tonight.... thanks. By the way, I am military, still am, on the side.... and the opportunities that you and your gallery preach about from different days really are few and far. I have the time and experience to go mainline... but the phone aint a-ring'n and as much as I joked about walmart.... the wife didn't dig it. Still have the manager's number and can hook ya up on a two-for-one on socks or a belt?
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:34 PM
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Heck... a few more posts and I might actually be able to PM somebody.... see Carl, you pulled me out from the shadows. Make it three-for-one!
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rance
I think I am starting to understand you Carl. You actually made me laugh tonight.... thanks. By the way, I am military, still am, on the side.... and the opportunities that you and your gallery preach about from different days really are few and far. I have the time and experience to go mainline... but the phone aint a-ring'n and as much as I joked about walmart.... the wife didn't dig it. Still have the manager's number and can hook ya up on a two-for-one on socks or a belt?

Try quitting the regional job and getting a corporate gig on the side. That'll do it. Otherwise you (NOT Carl!) Are responsible for the demise of the profession.

So Carl, as another poster asked, why aren't all Delta pilots turning down the 747 in order to get that payrate back to where it should be?
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
So before the Regionals where so Big and before they had jets, where did the Majors get their pilots? (besides the Military)

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Regionals? (They were smaller, not non-existant.)

I don't really know. Why don't you old-timers tell us?

The more relevant question is "where do the majors get their pilots today?" Answer... REGIONALS!
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:52 PM
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Confucious say: Egg no come before chicken. Chicken vote for egg then hate it.
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