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Old 04-11-2011, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
The Alaska arrangement will most probably be addressed by the Delta Borg assimilating Alaska Airlines. Remember, its the same agreement you had with Northwest and look how that turned out.

Delta's new marketing slogan: "We are the Borg, resistance is futile."
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
What you don't get is if enough of you keep making a little money to bank hours, there won't be mainline jobs for you to go to. And you'll finish your career humping an Ejet on mainline routes for "little money."
The regional pilot jobs pay closer (still more than, but closer) to free market rates because of the competition between pilot groups. By definition, market rates will be just enough to attract qualified candidates. If you think there is some economic force that will push wages higher, i'd love to hear about it.

You and your generation created this economic environment when you ****ed away scope protection.

Expecting an entire generation of pilots to give up their aspirations to fix your mistakes is foolish. It will not happen no matter how much you whine and pound your fists on the table.

The ONLY way this gets fixed is if you buy back scope. But that might cost you, so you'd rather blame the generation that had nothing to do with relaxing scope in the first place.
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
The Alaska arrangement will most probably be addressed by the Delta Borg assimilating Alaska Airlines. Remember, its the same agreement you had with Northwest and look how that turned out.
The thing about Alaska is taking the west coast organically would not be easy nor probably profitable. The current arrangement is a win-win for everyone but the Delta pilots and especially the LAX guys who have seen their flying cut and thus downgraded or kicked out. Thus, to some, just hurry up and merge and be done with it. Of course none if this would be necessary if the west coast and LAX better managed back after the Western merger when I believe Delta was the largest carrier at LAX. oh well.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
What you don't get is if enough of you keep making a little money to bank hours, there won't be mainline jobs for you to go to. And you'll finish your career humping an Ejet on mainline routes for "little money."
Oh, and I get the above. The difference between you and me is that I understand market forces ensure exactly that will happen. I just blame you for creating these market conditions in the first place.
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:54 AM
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Oh, and I get the above. The difference between you and me is that I understand market forces ensure exactly that will happen. I just blame you for creating these market conditions in the first place.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:15 AM
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oh, and i get the above. The difference between you and me is that i understand market forces ensure exactly that will happen. I just blame you for creating these market conditions in the first place.
what he said....!!!
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sticky
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I win!

What do I get?

Ohhhh, a ****ty career.



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Old 04-11-2011, 09:33 AM
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I find it absurd that some mainline pilots put forth so much effort at demonizing regional pilots for taking jobs that in actuality comprise the majority of the domestic airline industry. It is just plain stupid to think such a large demographic would rise up in unity and not accept these jobs as a matter of principle to try and return to the glory days of the industry. I hate what has become of the industry and mainline pilots (or their representatives) are soley responsible for allowing the outsourcing.

YOU Mr. Mainline 747 captain (and your reps) made mainline pilot jobs unattainable. Putting so much effort into blaming regional pilots just shows the elitist selfish nature that got us all in the situation in the first place.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sticky
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I guess you and jayme know what you're worth. Perhaps the two of you can meet for drinks on your Minot layovers.
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Old 04-11-2011, 10:09 AM
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Some pilots value their self-worth so much they are willing to destroy an entire industry just so they get what they feel entitled to.
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