cactiboss

Funny the company told the court that they have a single list and they have accepted it. Ask your lawyer what happens if we merge before usapa can negotiate a new list.

eaglefly

I think you can relax (from this standpoint anyway). I doubt AMR is stupid enough to buy (and merge) U lock, stock and nosegear with this hoplessly obscene situation. It would be a repeat of TWA on mushrooms. AA already has BOS, NYC, DCA and MIA. Adding PHL and CLT would be pointless and closing those and moving that traffic to the other hubs won't work as there is no room at those hubs to do it.

What might be possible is an AA/U alliance which might give Parker some breathing room. Parker desperately needs out of this untenable situation and if I were him, I'd be looking at anything at this point and I mean anything. I wouldn't surprise me if he did a Benihana and sliced and diced his operation. Not sure what form it would take or how, but there has to be a way of going back to the future and in this case running over the old man before his seed can produce this monster.

I cannot think of anything good that's going to happen to the East group and AA deliberately choosing to acquire this illness is unthinkable. At the very least, I think Parker will isolate the East and let it operate as is without growing it and probably shrinking it as its employee bases shrinks due to attrition until it either stops making money and he can take it BK or it runs out of employees.

I wonder if he can reseperate U/AWA and if he can, would he then codeshare and/or IA that with AA (or others) to preserve market presence until he has an excuse to scuttle the ship and restart or bury ?

USAPA is a pariah and I cannot think of a single airline pilot group in the nation that would want anything to do with them.

JetMonkey

Well just about everyone else has said the same thing over the last few years. Nobody wants to merge with US Airways yada yada yada. And also like several have mentioned... YOU, ME, or any other pilot group don't get to make that choice. Not sure I follow your logic about adding CLT and PHL (btw you forgot PHX) what do you mean AA already has DCA? its not as big of a presence as US there. And if the slot swap deal with DAL goes through, US will dominate the DCA market. AA I believe would love that. Not to mention the shuttle. Btw US has pulled down BOS and now trying to get rid of NYC so that makes sense with a AA merger. Also, adding CLT would make sense. Didn't AA use to have a RDU hub? Not much going on between NYC and MIA. CLT would fit well in the middle up and down the east coast.

Uhh, not sure what you mean there either. Have you noticed how much improved LCC is now? It's profitable now. $500 million last year. One of the youngest fleets in the industry. #1 on time airline for 2009, #1 in baggage for 2010. One of the 50 best places to work by LATINA Style magazine's. $2 billion unrestricted cash on hand. And just announced, US Airways has achieved #1 spot in 2011 in the annual Airline Quality Rating (AQR) report. This report is out of the "big 5" hub and spoke carriers.

That won't happen and hasn't happen for the past 5 years. Where do you think all of US Airways growth has been? That's right, all out of CLT and PHL. LAS, PIT is gone, and PHX has shrunk by 25% at least.

Uh, no. Parker has already stated it cannot. There's one certificate now so what happens to one happens to all of us. All though the easties love to dream that senario.

This, you totally nailed it. Couldn't agree with you more.

psw757

It always amazes me when this US has no value to AA conversation comes up. First, AA is almost non-existant in the small - medium sized cities in the northeast. US belive it or not is still the largest carrier in the northeast. US has more daily departures at BOS than AA does.

Second, US has a lot more daily departures at DCA than AA does and will dominate DCA when the slot swap is approved.

Most don't realize this but CLT is the third largest airline hub east of the mississippi behind ATL and ORD, CLT this summer for US alone is right around 700 daily departures. No value right???

As far as PHL not having any value?? It is the 4th/5th largest city in the country with a ton of major corporations based there. Draws traffic from Northern New Jersey all the way down to the Baltimore suburbs. US currently has around 25 daily Trans Atlantic flights out of PHL, AA at JFK probrably doesn't have much more as Delta is the big dog at JFK.

As for PHX, don't really know much about it but it is the 5th largest metro area in the country. If I had to guess, the US operation at PHX is probrably the 2nd largest hub by a single airline west of the mississippi, DFW being largest.

The fact that US had huge profits in 2010 and expects to break even or show a modest profit for 2011 despite fuel prices has value to it. They are doing something right, not sure how really but they are.

Moral of the story, I predict an AA bankruptcy late 2011 if fuel stays high and US jumps in bed with them. JMHO

eaglefly

The two posts above mostly demonstrate over optimism. But hey, that's cool......since U is such great shape and such a spectacular operation they don't need anyone else, including AA.

As for an AA BK, if that does happen (not likely IMO). it would be pre packaged and it's purpose would be debt and cost reduction and not a vehicle to either run into the arms of glorious U or be planed in a position of being molested by them.

I think you guys should keep dreaming though.....that's what I'd be doing if I was U pilot.

sidestep

whoa whoa whoa, sign me up!!! hahahahah

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Justdoinmyjob

How much of a profit would USAir have made if their pilots were paid the same amount as the other hub carriers, or even SWA instead of the BK wages they are still paid?

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eaglefly

Oh no.....it's true ! U is THE place for pilots. If pilots at DAL, AA, and SWA were smart, they'd be climbing over each other to get in the door !