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Old 01-17-2011, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
The only real QOL problem I see at NK is the complete lack of consistency in your schedule. You will fly early one day, red -eye the next and end up back early all in a four day trip.
I dont think this is as much a problem now as it was a year ago. The company has allowed the union to build the lines, with an emphasis put on circadian rhythm. There are a few lines where the clock switches during a duty cycle but by and large the redeyes, evening, afternoon, morning, and mountain flying all get isolated into seperate lines. Like a said there are a few exceptions but not many.
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Old 01-17-2011, 05:32 PM
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I dont think this is as much a problem now as it was a year ago. The company has allowed the union to build the lines, with an emphasis put on circadian rhythm. There are a few lines where the clock switches during a duty cycle but by and large the redeyes, evening, afternoon, morning, and mountain flying all get isolated into seperate lines. Like a said there are a few exceptions but not many.
Look at FLL schedules. And look at complete work events (work between days off) and you'll find that the schedules could use a bit more work on fatigue prevention.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
Look at FLL schedules. And look at complete work events (work between days off) and you'll find that the schedules could use a bit more work on fatigue prevention.
And the company will not do anything about it until we all start calling fatigued and filing ASAPs. I.e. the infamous BOS 3 day. Day one finishes at midnight, so you end up sleeping in until 9am or later. Then you have a full day of doing nothing, in a dry town, and thus can't go to sleep until midnight or later. Enjoy the 4:20am van on day 3 and the 4 legs. Last time I was finally able to get in a couple of hours of sleep with the help of a few strategically placed budlights. Which is ridiculous. But I was determined to call in fatigued on day 3 for the NAS turn at the end of the pairing had I not been able to sleep. As it turned out I was the most rested crew member. Everyone else got 1-2h max.

Call in fatigued, then file an ASAP immediately. The very least send an email to G.H.
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Old 01-18-2011, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
Look at FLL schedules. And look at complete work events (work between days off) and you'll find that the schedules could use a bit more work on fatigue prevention.
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I dont think this is as much a problem now as it was a year ago. The company has allowed the union to build the lines, with an emphasis put on circadian rhythm. There are a few lines where the clock switches during a duty cycle but by and large the redeyes, evening, afternoon, morning, and mountain flying all get isolated into seperate lines. Like a said there are a few exceptions but not many.
Maybe its about time we get a FLL guy on the scheduling committee? I'd like to see FLL become the same country clubs as ACY and DTW.
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Old 01-18-2011, 05:50 AM
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I know DTW is a "Mini" senior pilot crew domicile, but how likely are the chances of getting DTW as a new hire?

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Zero chance.
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Old 01-18-2011, 07:46 AM
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Where do the new hires go?
What's the way to avoid ACY? (i will be a west coast commuter)
What are the ZED and other flight benefits?
Airbus type is preferred on the website, but do I even have a chance without one?
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:28 AM
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Where do the new hires go?
What's the way to avoid ACY? (i will be a west coast commuter)
Be the oldest in your class and you could probably avoid it all together. I would guess most new hires could bid back to FLL within a month or two.
What are the ZED and other flight benefits?
As a pilot, we have a jumpseat agreement with most airlines. The ZED program for family is troublesome at best, but things may improve in the near future. Right now, every request has to be issued through the travel department and that usually takes 3-4 weeks, but should be automated sometime soon (or so we are being told).
Airbus type is preferred on the website, but do I even have a chance without one?
Definitely have a chance, although right now the only real way to get an interview is to have a current pilot recommend you/walk in the resume.
See above...

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Old 01-18-2011, 09:27 AM
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As said before, zero chance. Every FO in DTW could be a captain in every other base. They just don't want to commute.


Originally Posted by seattlepilot
Where do the new hires go?
What's the way to avoid ACY? (i will be a west coast commuter)

What are the ZED and other flight benefits?

Airbus type is preferred on the website, but do I even have a chance without one?
1. Luck, really. You want to get hired here and don't want to have to be junior or are you new to the 121 seniority system?

2. Already talked about.

3. Everyone so far has had an internal rec. and/or a A320 type. To say its impossible, no. I have two friends with interviews, both A320 typed so it goes along way.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:35 AM
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Thanks for all the replies..
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