"Latest and Greatest" about jetBlue
01-30-2013, 07:55 AM
#3371
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
Same here. They are my commute almost exclusively and I'm always treated well. Every Delta employee has a bad day from time to time. When that happens you smile, crack a joke or maybe offer to get them a cup of coffee. Overall a good experience.
I've seen jumpseating pilots great treated poorly many times and in each situation they were rude, demanding and impatient.
You are a guest on their carrier and jumpseating is still a privilege. It's not your right to travel.
I've seen jumpseating pilots great treated poorly many times and in each situation they were rude, demanding and impatient.
You are a guest on their carrier and jumpseating is still a privilege. It's not your right to travel.
Last edited by benzoate; 01-30-2013 at 08:12 AM.
01-30-2013, 08:42 AM
#3372
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 900
To clear the air, I don't want my comments to make it seem like I think all Delta pilots are a-holes. I honestly think I've had the run of bad luck to encounter that percentage. Commuting from MEM-JFK was pretty much all off-line as Delta didn't even have a non-stop on that route when I was doing the commute. MCO-JFK on Delta, it appeared that people would eat their own young to get to and from work. MCO-ATL looked even worse. I will say that I do feel I was treated differently than an off-line jumpseater. Not necessarily by the Delta pilots operating the flights, but certainly by the gate agents, since I was non-revving as an employee of a DCI carrier.
Based on my experience on both, I DO feel jetBlue has a superior product to Delta.
Based on my experience on both, I DO feel jetBlue has a superior product to Delta.
01-30-2013, 09:58 AM
#3373
Moderator
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
Same here. They are my commute almost exclusively and I'm always treated well. Every Delta employee has a bad day from time to time. When that happens you smile, crack a joke or maybe offer to get them a cup of coffee. Overall a good experience.
I've seen jumpseating pilots great treated poorly many times and in each situation they were rude, demanding and impatient.
You are a guest on their carrier and jumpseating is still a privilege. It's not your right to travel.
I've seen jumpseating pilots great treated poorly many times and in each situation they were rude, demanding and impatient.
You are a guest on their carrier and jumpseating is still a privilege. It's not your right to travel.
To clear the air, I don't want my comments to make it seem like I think all Delta pilots are a-holes. I honestly think I've had the run of bad luck to encounter that percentage. Commuting from MEM-JFK was pretty much all off-line as Delta didn't even have a non-stop on that route when I was doing the commute. MCO-JFK on Delta, it appeared that people would eat their own young to get to and from work. MCO-ATL looked even worse. I will say that I do feel I was treated differently than an off-line jumpseater. Not necessarily by the Delta pilots operating the flights, but certainly by the gate agents, since I was non-revving as an employee of a DCI carrier.
Based on my experience on both, I DO feel jetBlue has a superior product to Delta.
Based on my experience on both, I DO feel jetBlue has a superior product to Delta.
01-30-2013, 11:03 AM
#3374
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
No worries at all! JB does not serve my commute, but I have friends who jumpseat on JB all the time. They have had nothing but great experiences with the crews. I'm glad that most of us are mature enough to realize we're all just trying to get to and from work. If I can help, I'll certainly do so.
I'm disappointed to hear you in general had bad experiences. I hope that changes in the future.
I'm disappointed to hear you in general had bad experiences. I hope that changes in the future.
I never saw anyone shank anyone else except for a 15 minute prior republic guy who thought RAH was operating the flight (it was mesaba)...I had the jumpseat and he was gloating in his own superior doucheba99ery...until he didn't get to ride. BTW, the Mesaba guy was super super sharp and through conversation, taught me a lot about the regional pilot mindset. I came away significantly converted to the non-flow-up, but instead merit hiring methodology.
01-30-2013, 11:21 AM
#3375
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 28
There will be an A330 order (eventual merger notwithstanding) but I'm not sure about its relation to a union drive. I just meant an AmericaWestish experiment with widebodies. I think the response by the legacy airlines and their networks will be far, far, far more severe and defensively predatory when (not if) that happens. Poaching NY-FL runs and red eye transcons/island turns while the industry was in the biggest tailspin in its history was one thing. I just don't see either of the soon to be "big 3" sitting back and permitting that when they all have the cashflow to bleed it out quite agressively. We'll see though.
Even if JB tries to stay low profile and initially do niche/botique routes like MCO-Bogata theres going to be a strong response. As soon as they even attempt traditional routes all 3 legacy airlines will go to the mat to see who runs out of cash first.
As for the union drive, is the theory that 330's will be introduced to break the drive? If so, why would it have that result?
Even if JB tries to stay low profile and initially do niche/botique routes like MCO-Bogata theres going to be a strong response. As soon as they even attempt traditional routes all 3 legacy airlines will go to the mat to see who runs out of cash first.
As for the union drive, is the theory that 330's will be introduced to break the drive? If so, why would it have that result?
What tools beyond pricing work when JetBlue has taken pricing out of the equation? Seems like b.s. but it's true. Virgin America has demonstrated this and so have countless others.
01-30-2013, 11:50 AM
#3376
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 238
What is the typical hire's time and quals at JB? I've got 5300 TT, 1900 PIC from both 91 and 135. 400 turbine PIC from 135. 1 type rating.
Do they just roundfile apps without a degree listed? I've got a 2 year Associate in Business and have been onlining the rest. About 9 months to a year away from finishing the full 4 year.
Would hate to miss the opportunity if things open up here this year. Gotta get outta the regional world ASAP.
Do they just roundfile apps without a degree listed? I've got a 2 year Associate in Business and have been onlining the rest. About 9 months to a year away from finishing the full 4 year.
Would hate to miss the opportunity if things open up here this year. Gotta get outta the regional world ASAP.
01-30-2013, 11:52 AM
#3377
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
sooo...JB exists because its customers pay a premium for its product...yet it is unwilling to pay a premium (or even "industry average" wages and benefits) to the employees who deliver that product.
Now there's some irony.
Now there's some irony.
01-30-2013, 12:12 PM
#3378
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 320 F.O.
Posts: 1,386
Blah blah blah we have heard this over and over. Until we get a CBA or a pilot exodus this wont change, your not stating anything new. Althought I agree with you I don't interject in your Delta threads (as its non of my business) please stay out of ours!!
01-30-2013, 12:15 PM
#3379
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: Record-Shattering Profit Facilitator
Posts: 4,202
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01-30-2013, 12:23 PM
#3380
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 524
Spot on. Too much emotion from the no voting crowd to see the reality of the situation.
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