aewanabe

Good God man, tell me honestly what we "have now" that you would miss or value during CBA negotiations!

The Kew Shuttle? FLICA? Our industry-lagging retirement, payrates, vaction accrual? Our FAR workrules? Or our Catastrophic health care scam?

Kellwolf and Fins summed up my attitude perfectly a few pages back. I like being a JetBlue pilot, and I want the company to succeed. I am perfectly happy and willing to "go above and beyond" to make that happen.

However, I also am not willing to provide my professional services at a permanent discount in litterally EVERY SINGLE METRIC while my corporate masters prosper. What about this is so hard for you to understand?

benzoate

The PVC lawyer realized this mistake during the LGB road show. Colossal mistake. While the error was brought to the attention of the former PVC that group decided it was not to be revisited. Further questioning led to the revelation they, the PVC, did not believe management would ever do this to the pilot group.

As for paying for the legal fees during such an event I believe 15C clarifies we must spend our own money first THEN request financial support up to $2,000,000 from Jetblue. 15C also states we must request to enjoin in order to sue the airline. Again, as has transpired in 3A, it has taken over 2 years to simply get that right.
Who knows how long it would take next time because, unlike 3A, there is little financial benefit to a legal firm to fight for our right. 3A could yield a potential windfall for a legal firm. Fighting for our integration may not.

benzoate

Lets be clear on one topic. Winning this little debate we are having is not some badge of honor. It means we are all on the same page that we are going to get royally screwed!

txbusdriver

No disrespect but your first sentence is stating the obvious. I think we are trying to compare unionizing to the direct relationship. From what I have read no one is espousing the altruistic values of union representation. As for your last statement I suggest you study the good deal that some of your so called pilot reps are getting at JetBlue. Trips repeatedly bought, ability to pickup on days trips were bought, continuously crediting 120 hours a month, and committee members with personal agendas.

txbusdriver

Most everything is on the table at JetBlue as it stands. Premium pay trigger increased from 70 to 78 hours. Three day trips ending in a redeye that paid 13:30 hours of credit now pay ten. The amount of open time was diminished by the stroke of a pen in the FSM. Refusal to incorporate benefit changes into the CBA.

Don't we get to vote on our negotiated CBA?
On what grounds does the company refuse to negotiate in good faith for an industry average contract?
If the impending pilot shortage comes to fruition won't the company be under pressure to negotiate a contract with at least industry average to prevent attrition?
If this airline loses 200-300 pilots in less then a year airplanes will be parked. With our current compensation package many prospective new hires have no interest in applying. I eagerly await your response.

Columbia

No disrespect, but you need to work on your reading comprehension. I responded to someone who said:
your second statement is apparently agreeing with my comment about watching your union taking advantage of you.

txbusdriver

327 pages...sometimes things get lost in translation. By your union if you mean the current PVC and committee structure then yes we agree.

txbusdriver

Thanks for throwing us a bone Harry.....

hyperboy

Here is a question? If everything lags now as you say it does then it certainly lagged when you got here right? Then why did you come to B6?

hyperboy

Are you kidding me? I know some unhappy that say they want to leave but they can't. Are you going to leave? The way that B6 pilots pick up the open time. Which they are entitled. I think you may be wrong. Have you seen how fast open time is picked up? Now reserve pilots can pick up open time too!