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Old 01-14-2013, 04:59 AM
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Congrats to all that have got the call to interview. Plenty more coming. Good luck to all! My friend has one on Feb 5th. I think your gonna have a great time here!

What if you're looking for more than "a great time"?


What if you are looking for a "rewarding career"?


A "great time" is something Pilots have at flying clubs!



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Old 01-14-2013, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
What if you're looking for more than "a great time"?


What if you are looking for a "rewarding career"?


A "great time" is something Pilots have at flying clubs!



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Why are you the only one that can define a rewarding career *******.
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
What if you're looking for more than "a great time"?


What if you are looking for a "rewarding career"?


A "great time" is something Pilots have at flying clubs!



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A great time? Worst overnights I've ever had, shortest overnights I've ever had. Ugliest stews/*****iest stews I've ever had, mediocre hotels and dirty cockpits.

If that's your idea of a great time than this is awesome!!!!!
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Old 01-14-2013, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Why are you the only one that can define a rewarding career *******.

I'm sure I'm not.


These boards are frequented by Major Airline Pilots who have fought long and hard under collective bargaining to enhance the profession. And, they are making headway!


Meanwhile, the attempts to rationalize sub std comp and benefits at B6 is mindblowing.


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Old 01-14-2013, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
A great time? Worst overnights I've ever had, shortest overnights I've ever had. Ugliest stews/*****iest stews I've ever had, mediocre hotels and dirty cockpits.

If that's your idea of a great time than this is awesome!!!!!
Funny, my experience has been the exact opposite. Maybe you should have stayed at your last company that was so amazing.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
I'm sure I'm not.


These boards are frequented by Major Airline Pilots who have fought long and hard under collective bargaining to enhance the profession. And, they are making headway!


Meanwhile, the attempts to rationalize sub std comp and benefits at B6 is mindblowing.


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Old 01-14-2013, 08:44 AM
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Let me put this on the correct thread. Learn about the JetBlue direct relationship here....

Preserving JetBlue's Flight Plan: Retaining a Direct Relationship with Pilots - YouTube
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:06 PM
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Let me put this on the correct thread. Learn about the JetBlue direct relationship here....

Preserving JetBlue's Flight Plan: Retaining a Direct Relationship with Pilots - YouTube
I don't really see any significance to your complaints in this video. The management does not want a union. The pilots voted, and no union. These people are happy cause it's was there job to keep the union away from JetBlue, they feel it's for the best interest of the company. They see it as they educated the pilots and won the votes. They are not the pilots that voted no, they were just doing there job, geez.

It's like your some kind of radical conpirisist, next you will tell me the goverment is going to show up at my house and take my guns.

There was a vote, union lost, get over it.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Trkytr
I don't really see any significance to your complaints in this video. The management does not want a union. The pilots voted, and no union. These people are happy cause it's was there job to keep the union away from JetBlue, they feel it's for the best interest of the company. They see it as they educated the pilots and won the votes. They are not the pilots that voted no, they were just doing there job, geez.

It's like your some kind of radical conpirisist, next you will tell me the goverment is going to show up at my house and take my guns.

There was a vote, union lost, get over it.
You fit in perfectly here. You've been duped, and you can't see it now but you'll wake up someday.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:22 PM
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Yeah I know right. My friend at united has a way better contract. Better pay, insurance, gauranteed seniority advancement. He only had to be unemployed twice in the last 10 years for multiple years each time. I wonder how much more he has to make a year to make up for those years with zero income. If he would of went to B6 on his first furlough he would be a Captain making way more than his FO pay at united. So I guess it's really just how you look at it.
You know, when you are 25, 10 years seems like a long time. No doubt this was the toughest 10 years in the airline biz in probably 30 years. Still, its a long career. The amazing thing is that even after the devastation of a double giveback contract evisceration at United, they still retained better benefits across the board than JB.
JB even reduced your already substandard health insurance without bothering to talk to you or YOUR insurance committee reps. Oh well, they were smiling while they did it, and I am sure you enjoy that pleasant atmosphere. The details just don't really matter.


Despite the "nimble relationship" and the lesser benefits, JB has only agreed to pay your hourly rates below average in perpetuity. You will always be scrambling to rise to the level of a broad based average from last year- when they finally get around to enacting their review "each" year.

Another newsflash. When an airline is a startup, pilots advance to the left seat quickly. Then the movement slows. Its inevitable. Obviously quick upgrades are outliers when comparing incomes with a more established airline. Ask a newhire at JB today how long til upgrade - and I imagine it will be significantly longer than anyone hired in the first 5 years. You might want to open up your comparator and start looking at FO rates vs FO rates since we are talking about pilots hired today.

PS keep smiling as they have a new habit of firing pilots who don't toe the line. That should help seat movement for the bottom dwellers.
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