Pinchanickled

This thread has spun way out of control!!!

Kellwolf

Sure, it unified a passing union vote....if there is ever a drive. What's the status on that?

And I agree with you 100%. A lot of the negative guys on here harp on the same four issues. We get it. We're all aware of the issues. Yes, seniority won't move up as fast as the legacies because we don't have as many retirements. Yes, we don't have a leg to stand on in a merger. Yes, our health insurance sucks and can be changed on a whim. Yes, our pay and retirement isn't as good as the legacies. We'd rather stay and make our current job better. If you guys want to jump to a legacy, that's fine. Please, move the F on. We're tired of hearing about it.

alvrb211

I think he is complaining about guys who see value in free Pizza and smiling faces when comp and benefits are below average.


It's an old used car salesman's trick.



JJ

Kellwolf

Am I the only one that sees complete irony in a free pizza while they try to push everyone to be healthier?

I think even the free pizza has been cut back. Only saw it once at OSC last week.

txbusdriver

Can you refute anything I have posted? I know the truth hurts, reality can be difficult for many.

I bashed UPS or WN...huh? Wth?

I'm a JetBlue pilot, I've seen a steady decline in the decade I have been here. I want to make it a better place to work. You're ****ed because you have no answers for the facts presented. What do YOU think we should do....shut up and color?

Are you really saying the legacy airlines are now thriving because of government loans?

Open your eyes and ask your fellow JetBlue pilots.

txbusdriver

[QUOTE=Trkytr;1312158]Calm down skippy. It seems the legacy carriers are doing just fine now. Do the math, big retirements are around the corner everywhere except JetBlue.

Why don't you try educating yourself, read Flying The Line, Flying the Line 2, Hard Landing and come back and share your wisdom with us.

Ernst Kessler

[QUOTE=txbusdriver;1312568]I'm a JetBlue pilot, I've seen a steady decline in the decade I have been here.[/QUOTE]

This is the most INSANE post in this thread!

In the past decade, JetBlue has gone from NOTHING to 2,500 pilots!!! While in the past decade all of the legacy carriers have shrunk, furloughed, given massive paycuts and used bankruptcy to steal away retirement pensions.

Where have you been?

The pay used to be so poor, we got denied jumpseats because of it. Now many Captains are making 200K a year.....at a "discount airline!"


Did you not take any business classes in college? Did you go to college? Don't you remember all the case studies on how businesses lose the personal touches as it grows in size? You must have got hired when it was New Air and a college degree wasn't really necessary because New Air was forecasted to be "just another start up."

Trkytr

Ernst pretty much already said everything I wanted to.

The post about me returning to my management job: that's funny.

Meanwhile another guy implied I don't have a college degree... Ok. I will try harder to make my post easier for you to understand.

Just because I don't agree with your negative opinions on every topic dosnt mean I am in management, new to this career, or uneducated. I entered this career very informed and sought out a job at JetBlue. That choice was based on believing JetBlue is a great company and is going places. I have a feeling that those of you who insist on telling others how much they should hate their job had false expectations when you entered this career. Probably thought, or we're told, you would be an international Captain by age 45 and make 350k a year. Look I am sorry your so disappointed in your career, sorry you hate your job. It's not like you have a contract, quit! It's that simple. Change careers. Nobody here will miss you. But realize a lot of people on this forum are here cause they want to work for JetBlue or are excited about starting here soon. You guys were bit**ing a year ago about the same stuff. WE GET IT YOU DON'T LIKE JETBLUE.

Stud7094

I will gladly work at jb...I'll trade my 6 year regional job with theirs if they wanna bicth about it...if I get on this year I will be here for the duration

GuppyPuppy

I wonder how many guys who are itching to get to JB will continue to seek employment at a carrier that has better pay, retirement, profit sharing, work rules, more retirements and better health care?

It may be better than your regional airline, but several legacies are better than JB. Will you continue your job search after getting hired at JB?

Don't believe all that fluff about the open door policy either. I have had that at every airline I've worked at (9 total), union or non-union.

Let's be clear...management has one objective - Profit. Along with all the spin we get from the top makes this team more devious than management at the legacy airlines. They have royally screwed us on 2013 health insurance, but tell us that we are going to save money. They tout that they got the pay review done ontime this year (only because they didn't want the new UAL rates included in the comparison). Look, they are just doing their job. It's what we should expect a management team to do. The pilots here are the ones to blame for the situation JB pilots find themselves in now.

So, your choice....table scraps or a nice steak dinner.

GP