"Latest and Greatest" about jetBlue
09-14-2012, 05:04 PM
#2901
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
ALPA isn't coming to us. You need to go to ALPA.
BlueTruthPilots
If you want a CBA then volunteer.
Educate yourself. Don't put the blame on someone.
You can "own" your PEA just like your health care plan...
or you can OWN the rest of your career and at the very least have a say.
You sent in a card. Good first step. Now walk the walk and help the pilots of jetBlue gain a future.
BlueTruthPilots
BlueTruthPilots
If you want a CBA then volunteer.
Educate yourself. Don't put the blame on someone.
You can "own" your PEA just like your health care plan...
or you can OWN the rest of your career and at the very least have a say.
You sent in a card. Good first step. Now walk the walk and help the pilots of jetBlue gain a future.
BlueTruthPilots
09-15-2012, 06:48 AM
#2902
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 712
The 1-2% should have no bearing on your descision. The 20% who are drunk on Jetblue kool-aid are the greater concern.
ALPA cannot silence anyone. As an educated individual you should be able to listen to the level headed majority.
Im curious as to what sort of message jetblue pilots expect?
Jetblue put out posters, fliers and email with lie after lie. They did so with a smile and color billboards.
ALPA simply put out facts. They weren't in your face, we weren't allowed to put up any fliers and we weren't granted access to the Jetblue email server like the BoB's were.
Take some time and give me an honest assessment of what you would like to see.
ALPA cannot silence anyone. As an educated individual you should be able to listen to the level headed majority.
Im curious as to what sort of message jetblue pilots expect?
Jetblue put out posters, fliers and email with lie after lie. They did so with a smile and color billboards.
ALPA simply put out facts. They weren't in your face, we weren't allowed to put up any fliers and we weren't granted access to the Jetblue email server like the BoB's were.
Take some time and give me an honest assessment of what you would like to see.
09-15-2012, 07:50 AM
#2903
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 712
It's mind boggling.
Jetblue has done a very good job of convincing the 1193 that they are somehow different and special. They have convinced them that this pilot group and the airline are somehow different.
Objectively looking at these ideas what makes us so much different from any other airline or pilot group?
We fly the aircraft safely and efficiently. We make an effort to treat the customers well. We make an effort to treat each other well. Again, we are no different than any other carrier.
The only difference I can see is, for the 1193, that "different" somehow means willing to accept less.
The only difference between Jetblue pilots and other airline pilots is this pilot group gladly accepts less and is naive in doing so.
Jetblue has ernst convinced the health care changes are good for him/her. The money Jetblue is spending on advertising these new policies is clearly worth every penny.
Jetblue has done a very good job of convincing the 1193 that they are somehow different and special. They have convinced them that this pilot group and the airline are somehow different.
Objectively looking at these ideas what makes us so much different from any other airline or pilot group?
We fly the aircraft safely and efficiently. We make an effort to treat the customers well. We make an effort to treat each other well. Again, we are no different than any other carrier.
The only difference I can see is, for the 1193, that "different" somehow means willing to accept less.
The only difference between Jetblue pilots and other airline pilots is this pilot group gladly accepts less and is naive in doing so.
Jetblue has ernst convinced the health care changes are good for him/her. The money Jetblue is spending on advertising these new policies is clearly worth every penny.
09-15-2012, 09:46 AM
#2904
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 196
Prove it.
So what? They work in the office. It's a different schedule than flying the line. CBA won't change it.
I hope you're not involved in the next ALPA campaign. If you think these arguments are going to sway fence-sitters, you are sadly mistaken.
09-15-2012, 10:56 AM
#2905
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
So what? That won't change under a CBA. You can apply to be a chief if you want.
Prove it.
So what? They work in the office. It's a different schedule than flying the line. CBA won't change it.
Wouldn't (mathamatically) one of the chief pilots have to have the highest number of complaints no matter what? Regardless, who cares? CBA won't change it.
Holy crap! I hope the national media was notified. This is a Paris Hilton airhead argument.
I hope you're not involved in the next ALPA campaign. If you think these arguments are going to sway fence-sitters, you are sadly mistaken.
Prove it.
So what? They work in the office. It's a different schedule than flying the line. CBA won't change it.
Wouldn't (mathamatically) one of the chief pilots have to have the highest number of complaints no matter what? Regardless, who cares? CBA won't change it.
Holy crap! I hope the national media was notified. This is a Paris Hilton airhead argument.
I hope you're not involved in the next ALPA campaign. If you think these arguments are going to sway fence-sitters, you are sadly mistaken.
The idea is Ford and Harrison as trying to make them "more like you."
09-15-2012, 11:25 AM
#2906
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,691
Union or no union shouldnt affect the way CPs operate, unless the company wants them to treat pilots differently.
09-15-2012, 12:04 PM
#2907
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 712
A CBA will not change the chief pilots and I don't think anyone is suggesting so. If you read the email sent out the suggestion is that our CP's are somehow out to support you. The BOS CP was asking pilots to make an announcement about a TV show while below 10,000 and the other CP has harassment charges filed against him through the people department.
The idea is Ford and Harrison as trying to make them "more like you."
The idea is Ford and Harrison as trying to make them "more like you."
09-15-2012, 02:15 PM
#2908
New Hire
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 2
Health Insurance
Does anyone know how much it costs to cover your family (wife and 1 child) with health insurance per month? We were interested in a PPO plan and heard it was very expensive, such as $800 a month.
09-15-2012, 06:17 PM
#2910
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
The comments are simply in response to the latest email sent by JetBlue claiming the chief pilots are the best in the industry, there to help and pilot representatives. Simply not true.
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