"Latest and Greatest" about jetBlue
09-14-2012, 04:20 AM
#2881
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2010
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 900
America has become the fattest nation in the world. First place for obesity! Too much beer drinking, over eating, fast food, cigarettes, sedentary lifestyle, liquor drinking, excess sodium, high cholestorol, lack of vegetable diet that is destroying our health. Take just a minute and look down. Can you see your shoes? If not, then you are part of the problem as well. Your unhealthiness is part of the blame.
The big question is for those who practice healthy living, eat in moderation, drink occasionally and exercise daily, will we, the smart ones, get cheaper insurance if we give full participation in the healthy rewards program?
Dave did say our new health care would be cheaper overall if we used the healthy rewards program.
The big question is for those who practice healthy living, eat in moderation, drink occasionally and exercise daily, will we, the smart ones, get cheaper insurance if we give full participation in the healthy rewards program?
Dave did say our new health care would be cheaper overall if we used the healthy rewards program.
Until the dollar menu starts to include salads, I don't think people will take the healthy option. Most people are too short sighted to think "If I spend the extra $3 and get something healthy, I might save on that double bypass surgery down the road." And our health care system is built to reflect this. I know of VERY few insurance plans that offer cheaper alternatives to those that are healthy. At best you might get a lower premium because you don't smoke and maybe free wellness vists once a year. I'd like to see something akin to "accident forgiveness" in car insurance where your rate decreases if you maintain a healthy lifestyle.
09-14-2012, 06:02 AM
#2882
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
You voted "NO" because of tone?
You voted no despite the worst insurance, retirement, disability, merger protection, vacation because of tone?
I'm probably going to get suspended by the mods for my next comment but you sir are an absolute moron.
You exemplify why we are behind in nearly every category, why we will be acquired with little or no integration and why we have little shot of ever leading any measurable financial category in the industry.
JetBlue intentionally makes sure your PEA and have 5 documents allow for seperate operations in the event of a merger but you were upset about tone with the people working on your behalf.
Absolutely pathetic. Your myopic view is going to ruin all our careers. Again, you are a moron.
You voted no despite the worst insurance, retirement, disability, merger protection, vacation because of tone?
I'm probably going to get suspended by the mods for my next comment but you sir are an absolute moron.
You exemplify why we are behind in nearly every category, why we will be acquired with little or no integration and why we have little shot of ever leading any measurable financial category in the industry.
JetBlue intentionally makes sure your PEA and have 5 documents allow for seperate operations in the event of a merger but you were upset about tone with the people working on your behalf.
Absolutely pathetic. Your myopic view is going to ruin all our careers. Again, you are a moron.
And many of you guys are not working on OUR behalf. You are ultimately working on YOUR behalf. You want more money for yourself, and you need OUR vote to get it. You're way to angry and hard selling for it to be any other way.
09-14-2012, 06:17 AM
#2883
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
They don't know this, because Fox News never mentions this FACT.
Or maybe you forget that premiums have been increasing at ever greater rates, long before the current administration took over.
09-14-2012, 06:30 AM
#2884
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 712
hold on for a sec, what do you mean YOUR behalf? If a cba garners higher wages, benefits and retirement money that benefits everyone does it not? We all benefit under a cba, do you not see that? Finally, since you are so fact driven with your words, who has higher pay rates cba carriers or non cba carriers? Its not even close when you look at the facts.
09-14-2012, 06:43 AM
#2885
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Switch, Lever & Light Specialist
Posts: 1,065
I feel sorry for the good guy/ girls working to improve things at jetBlue. It's a tough road to get people like Bluedriver to see the light.....but keep working, it's well worth the effort. Not only will the improvements you gain through a CBA benefit your ENTIRE pilot group, it will also raise the bar for the entire industry.
Keep at it guys!
09-14-2012, 06:50 AM
#2886
Moderator
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
Although I agree with the argument that we need a CBA. I have to say everyone's insurance in everyone's industry is getting screwed thanks to our fearless leadership (as a nation). I don't blaim JB management for this problem, they are trying to adapt the best the can. I still think that we as a pilot group will come out ahead for this year. However, next year could hurt, especially with managements move away from the peer set program. The only way the pilots will get better health care is with a CBA. I am still disturbed by managements double standard with the peer set it is just one more reason why we need a CBA.
09-14-2012, 07:22 AM
#2887
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
Our pilots would rather pay more and receive less because they are concerned with tone. They would rather put their families and careers at risk because they are unhappy with the tone of a truthful message.
JetBlue can steal from their families but because they do so with a smile that makes it ok.
Again, pathetic.
Delta pilots get it.
09-14-2012, 07:23 AM
#2888
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: C-5, 68th AS Rated Hiring Board Chief, B-1 Aircraft Commander/Mission Lead
Posts: 113
09-14-2012, 07:32 AM
#2889
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 196
You voted "NO" because of tone?
You voted no despite the worst insurance, retirement, disability, merger protection, vacation because of tone?
I'm probably going to get suspended by the mods for my next comment but you sir are an absolute moron.
You exemplify why we are behind in nearly every category, why we will be acquired with little or no integration and why we have little shot of ever leading any measurable financial category in the industry.
JetBlue intentionally makes sure your PEA and have 5 documents allow for seperate operations in the event of a merger but you were upset about tone with the people working on your behalf.
Absolutely pathetic. Your myopic view is going to ruin all our careers. Again, you are a moron.
You voted no despite the worst insurance, retirement, disability, merger protection, vacation because of tone?
I'm probably going to get suspended by the mods for my next comment but you sir are an absolute moron.
You exemplify why we are behind in nearly every category, why we will be acquired with little or no integration and why we have little shot of ever leading any measurable financial category in the industry.
JetBlue intentionally makes sure your PEA and have 5 documents allow for seperate operations in the event of a merger but you were upset about tone with the people working on your behalf.
Absolutely pathetic. Your myopic view is going to ruin all our careers. Again, you are a moron.
09-14-2012, 07:33 AM
#2890
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
Just food for thought.
Last edited by johnso29; 09-14-2012 at 09:55 AM.
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