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06-09-2012, 04:20 PM
#2771
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
I could be #25 in 2044... But I won't move 100#'s until 2023...
06-09-2012, 06:24 PM
#2772
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 194
That calculator is an eye opening tool to dissuade pilots from applying here. There is no career advancement period and there is not better truth than reality. If you are hired today you will, most likely, never be a captain. You will be lucky to be a senior FO. Unless you need 121 or "heavy" time you are better off staying at your current carrier and waiting for a major. It's amazing how few retirements bluejet truly has.
06-09-2012, 07:22 PM
#2773
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 712
That calculator is an eye opening tool to dissuade pilots from applying here. There is no career advancement period and there is not better truth than reality. If you are hired today you will, most likely, never be a captain. You will be lucky to be a senior FO. Unless you need 121 or "heavy" time you are better off staying at your current carrier and waiting for a major. It's amazing how few retirements bluejet truly has.
06-09-2012, 08:42 PM
#2774
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Bermuda Triangle
Posts: 66
That's so incredibly negative, and so incorrect, it's almost laughable! How the hell do you come up with that spin?
Talk about BS, yea, I'm raising the BS flag on that one!
Last edited by Liv2soar; 06-09-2012 at 08:56 PM.
06-10-2012, 12:48 AM
#2775
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Blue fifi flogger
Posts: 739
The company apologist rears his head.. It's simple math. The next newhire is 2330 or so. We have 53 190s and 122 320s on property with a total fleet plan of 75 190s and maybe 250 320 family jets if we never lose another airplane. We staff at about 14 pilots/jet. If and when the music stops Mr/Ms 2330 might be at 50 percent, if he/she is lucky. LA is right on the money.
06-10-2012, 03:27 AM
#2776
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
The company apologist rears his head.. It's simple math. The next newhire is 2330 or so. We have 53 190s and 122 320s on property with a total fleet plan of 75 190s and maybe 250 320 family jets if we never lose another airplane. We staff at about 14 pilots/jet. If and when the music stops Mr/Ms 2330 might be at 50 percent, if he/she is lucky. LA is right on the money.
To say that you'd never upgrade may be a bit misleading.
GP
06-10-2012, 06:44 AM
#2777
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,691
/sarcasm
When it comes down to it I dont expect to be at jetblue in 2031. I will actively apply to legacy airlines that have more progression when they open the hiring windows. If we get bought/sold then I will roll with the punches. Jetblue is a great place to be for a few years, but just be aware of the career progression realities.
06-10-2012, 06:48 AM
#2778
Moderator
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
Can you prove he's wrong? I have no dog in the fight, but it's a fact that JB is a very young airline. Movement due to retirements isn't likely based on the age of the pilot group.
06-10-2012, 07:28 AM
#2779
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Blue fifi flogger
Posts: 739
Liv2Soar is relatively new to BlueJet and thus knows much more about the company than those of us whom have been around a few years, and likes to ridicule anyone who doesn't worship at the temple of Dave. I really enjoy my job here but with 5 years seniority and 35 years old I'm seriously researching whether it is my best long-term career option.
My stats for potential newbies to see: 5 years on property, seniority 1700-ish of 2330; it will be 2021 before I make it to 1600, and 2031 before I crack the top 1000. I can almost hold Embraer captain now were there any upgrades (there are zero upgrades or open FO vacancies on the newest system bid, FYI). Holding Embraer CA now would doom me to years of reserve joy versus my current spot of 40-ish percent 320 FO in Boston, so no thanks. Food for thought.
My stats for potential newbies to see: 5 years on property, seniority 1700-ish of 2330; it will be 2021 before I make it to 1600, and 2031 before I crack the top 1000. I can almost hold Embraer captain now were there any upgrades (there are zero upgrades or open FO vacancies on the newest system bid, FYI). Holding Embraer CA now would doom me to years of reserve joy versus my current spot of 40-ish percent 320 FO in Boston, so no thanks. Food for thought.
Last edited by aewanabe; 06-10-2012 at 08:04 AM.
06-10-2012, 10:43 AM
#2780
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Joined APC: May 2012
Posts: 1,099
I wouldn't call that negative at all. This is reality. While a nice job JetBlue is not a career. Upgrades, benefits, retirement, disability, schedule, contracts. These qualities make a career and unfortunately JetBlue has little to none. It's truly unfortunate as the people you work with are great but the company itself lacks much of what they preach. Hopefully we'll be bought out and have some opportunity to retain our jobs.
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