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#2401
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: 737 F.O.
Posts: 180
Seems to me you are arguing a technicality, because AAI had it rammed down their throats via a not so veiled threat of their employment. Yeah.. theoretically if they could have said no and asked for arbitration, and management could have chosen to retain a separate operating certificate and dismantled AAI. I think that threat was loud and clear, and I do not blame the MEC for voting the way they did.. in either offer. They thought that management was going to play by established rules. oops.
(4) COVERED TRANSACTION.—The term ‘‘covered transaction’’ means—
(A) a transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier;
#2403
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 320 F.O.
Posts: 1,386
I'm not knocking those airlines and the fact you treated them as careers. My point was they were never intended to be a legacy. If you were fine with that then that was a personal choice. As an slp you have little or no say in th contracts signed between your management and the legacy management. Because of this you were always going to be limited with how much you could earn. Too many pilots blame the union for this when in reality that was clearly not the case. Could ALPA have done some things better I'm sure the could have. My issue is claiming the union screwed you because aca, Indy, comair etc, didn't provide you with legacy style pay and benefits. That part is simply economics.
As for JetBlue being a career it wasn't for me but after everything happened post 9-11 I've been trying to make it. Educating the ranks has been difficult.
For the record I like Jetblue. I hold a great schedule and rarely fly if I don't want to. The folks I fly with a great and my direct CP is a decent guy. I don't fall for the cost creep emails when JetBlues is looking into purchasing stake in another airline. I don't buy any of the Industry standard rhetoric when there are gaping holes in our compensation.
I still do announcement from the front, time permitting, and try my best to help the fa's whether its a food run or a row or two. I'm more frustrated with this place then most but I still do the job as was asked of me from day one. I volunteer and I make my voice heard.
As for JetBlue being a career it wasn't for me but after everything happened post 9-11 I've been trying to make it. Educating the ranks has been difficult.
For the record I like Jetblue. I hold a great schedule and rarely fly if I don't want to. The folks I fly with a great and my direct CP is a decent guy. I don't fall for the cost creep emails when JetBlues is looking into purchasing stake in another airline. I don't buy any of the Industry standard rhetoric when there are gaping holes in our compensation.
I still do announcement from the front, time permitting, and try my best to help the fa's whether its a food run or a row or two. I'm more frustrated with this place then most but I still do the job as was asked of me from day one. I volunteer and I make my voice heard.
#2404
What you fail to realize is the fact that SWA did in fact play by the established rules. The M/B legislation specifically states that the law only applies if the the two groups are actually merged. There is no portion of the law that could ever or would ever FORCE the acquiring entity to in fact merge the operations without a major revamp of current US law. You may think the law was circumvented, but it was in fact followed as written. You just don't care for the outcome because it is quite evident you have an aversion to all things Southwest, which of course is your prerogative. Here is the relevant portion of the legislation.
(4) COVERED TRANSACTION.—The term ‘‘covered transaction’’ means—
(A) a transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier;
(4) COVERED TRANSACTION.—The term ‘‘covered transaction’’ means—
(A) a transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier;
But, intent and four dollars will buy you a fancy cup of coffee.
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#2405
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Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,544
And its not a merger if there isn't a merge. No one owes anyone seniority unless they negotiate and secure it.
I thought the AT pilots would have fared better in arbitration based on assuming they had strong enough scope, merger, fragmentation, successorship, and transactional event language to prevent being operated separately while phased out. Either they knew they didn't or they didn't want to get that far and find out they didn't. Either way, there's no government freebie in seniority integration.
There are MANY ways around that "law".
#2406
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 194
Any way you slice it AirTran pilots negotiated their own integration. They had a vote.
JetBlue pilots have no vote and never will. The very individual who has delayed the retirement fix with various "work arounds" has more say than you do.
In the end a decision will be made based on shareholders and not employees. It is the responsibility of the employees to make decisions based on the employees.
JetBlue pilots have no vote and never will. The very individual who has delayed the retirement fix with various "work arounds" has more say than you do.
In the end a decision will be made based on shareholders and not employees. It is the responsibility of the employees to make decisions based on the employees.
#2407
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
Hearing anything about a San Juan base? Would it go junior or senior if it happens?
#2408
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
Hello everyone I am a Student who wants to interview a Airline Pilot for a project that I need to be completed by April 23, 2012 so could someone please reply their email address or just message me at [email protected] so that I could send the questions because I cant send any direct messages until after 10 "Quality messages are posted in the forums" It would really help and yes I am extremely interested in becoming a Airline Pilot so if anyone will give me guidance that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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