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Old 02-15-2012, 09:27 AM
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Congrats to dudes in the pool.

15 Nov interview. No pool email.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by thecloser2144
Do you guys know how long you can expect to be on reserve before bidding a line at any domicile, just curious ......

Also, how long is training typically from indoc to the end???


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BOS 190 is running about 3-4 months or so until a line. My first month on the line was December although I could not bid. I was awarded reserve for Jan, Feb and now March. I just missed a hard line for March although I should get a move up line.

One guy who finished class 4 weeks before me was awarded his first hard line for Feb and one who finished two weeks before me was awarded his first hard line for Mar.

Who knows where this will end up since classes are trickling and approaching a temporary halt.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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The quarterly system bid is due out in the first week of March. That could provide some insight for those waiting on class dates.

Training is around 6 weeks from indoc. to finishing the sim. checkride. IOE is roughly 20-25 hours worth of flying.

Reserve times could change on a dime. Right now, I think the shortest is about 3 or 4 months and (probably) rising. I'd just plan for about a year and if it ends up being less, great.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:02 AM
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3-4 months and rising.. That is pretty good news. I was told years on reserve from my friends that work there currently. Additionally upgrade maybe after 10 ++ years. Doesn't matter much since I live next to the the junior base.
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:20 AM
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Thanks for the info...
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Voodoo68
3-4 months and rising.. That is pretty good news. I was told years on reserve from my friends that work there currently. Additionally upgrade maybe after 10 ++ years. Doesn't matter much since I live next to the the junior base.
I think the 3-4 months reserve may only apply to those who have already finished class. Those that are about to finish or are starting soon may be on reserve until the next wave of classes goes through in the fall. Id say that roughly a year may be a fair estimate.

Upgrade as of today is a little over 4 years. There is no way that it will stay there. I would say 7-10 years is likely with that possibly approaching 10-14 years. Depends entirely on growth and attrition because no one is retiring anytime soon.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:07 AM
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Approximately 110 retirements over the next ten years will make for very long upgrade times.

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Old 02-15-2012, 11:34 AM
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Thats the large part of the equation that puts upgrades in the 10+ year range.

I came up with the number by adding the 110 retirements to the need to staff the additional ~82 planes which includes the 52 A320/neo/321 and the remainder of the 190s to get the number to 75ish.

At 5 crews per plane that would be 410 plus the 110 is 520 Captains in the next ten years or so. Add in a few who quit outright or leave for a different carrier/job or take a recall and that comes out to ten-ISH years. Of course orders do not mean a whole lot and you cant predict upgrade beyond yesterday...these are just rough numbers off the scratch pad.

Id be thinking about it if I were 50 numbers away..I am much more than that so it is very far off my radar.

Just some numbers for thought for those who may put upgrade as one of their deciding factors in coming here.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:47 AM
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Unfortunately at ole' bluejet there is no way to predict upgrade. For every delivery taken we return several lease backs. There is no accurate way to predict retirements since we aren't given access to an up to date seniority list. Upgrades will primarily be based on expansion. Not a knock just reality.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:40 PM
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3-4 months possibly at BOS on the 190 when hiring was 20+ a month as previously mentioned. Anywhere else you are probably closer to a year and that is changing with hiring slowing for the year.
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