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02-12-2012, 06:36 PM
#2221
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The rumor is they were threatened with separate ops and SW would just transfer assets without pilots, thus mcCaskill-Bond would not have been triggered.
02-12-2012, 06:46 PM
#2222
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AT pilots got to vote on their integration. Would you?
02-12-2012, 06:53 PM
#2223
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TWA was broke....again. What are your expectations when you work for a company that was in deep financial trouble for years? I'm not saying ALPA is innocent but when do the pilots of TWA look in the mirror and say I took a risk and stayed at an airline withering on the vine. Representation or not, I know if I am working for a company in financial trouble that all may not end so well.
02-12-2012, 07:04 PM
#2225
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The anger you show is worrisome knowing you are responsible for peoples lives. I think you should get off these boards because it seems like you're going to have a stroke or a heart attack if you keep working yourself up. It is BS that we have to pay for our own Cobra and thank God for the BPF, I want the SAME things, but you are coming across as an angry psychopath
This is just one story of many where the company has turned their back on a pilot in need. It's sad and needs to be exposed. We the pilots of JEtBlue ought to be angry as heck over these disability/health care issues. The other stuff; retirement,work rules, pay ,etc is just business. I understand the company wants to keep costs low. We have a conflict of interest. We need representation yesterday.
02-12-2012, 08:09 PM
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02-12-2012, 09:32 PM
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To be fair, PEA's are an unproven entity. However, as previously stated - ALPA membership does not guarantee any protection in the event of a merger.
I believe that a CBA is probably stronger in court than our PEA's (again unknown), but in my opinion the additional baggage that comes with ALPA doesn't outweigh that unknown.
Honest question - why would the McCaskill-Bond amendment not apply to a non-unionized JB?
I believe that a CBA is probably stronger in court than our PEA's (again unknown), but in my opinion the additional baggage that comes with ALPA doesn't outweigh that unknown.
Honest question - why would the McCaskill-Bond amendment not apply to a non-unionized JB?
The legislation, known as the McCaskill-Bond statute, was signed into law in December 2007 and is codified at 49 U.S.C. § 42112.
The statute applies when two or more air carriers are involved in a "covered transaction," described as:
A transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier; and which
Involves the transfer of ownership or control of—
50 percent or more of the equity securities (as defined in section 101 of title 11, * United States Code) of an air carrier; or
50 percent or more (by value) of the assets of the air carrier. 49 U.S.C. § 42112 (b)(4).
When such a covered transaction "results in the combination of crafts or classes that are subject to the Railway Labor Act," "sections 3 and 13 of the labor protective provisions imposed by the Civil Aeronautics Board ("CAB" or the "Board") in the Allegheny-Mohawk merger (as published at 59 C.A.B. 45) shall apply to the integration of covered employees of the covered air carriers." Id. § 42112(a).1 In short, these Allegheny-Mohawk Labor Protective Provisions ("LPPs") require that the carrier make provisions "for the integration of seniority lists in a fair and equitable manner," including negotiation with union representatives and binding arbitration in covered transactions. The participants in this negotiation/arbitration process are the affected employee groups, and the carrier or carriers involved. The interests of unionized employee groups are represented by their union, while interests of nonunionized employee groups may be represented by employee committees or by the carrier.
02-13-2012, 07:10 AM
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GOT the pool email! NOV 9/1130... 
02-13-2012, 09:28 AM
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Pool email received today! Nov 9, 1330.
02-13-2012, 10:40 AM
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McCaskill-Bond does apply to JetBlue, the question or grey area is about who will represent you, read the last line of this quote, your interests can be represented by employee committees or the company with regard to the legislation.
The legislation, known as the McCaskill-Bond statute, was signed into law in December 2007 and is codified at 49 U.S.C. § 42112.
The statute applies when two or more air carriers are involved in a "covered transaction," described as:
A transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier; and which
Involves the transfer of ownership or control of—
50 percent or more of the equity securities (as defined in section 101 of title 11, * United States Code) of an air carrier; or
50 percent or more (by value) of the assets of the air carrier. 49 U.S.C. § 42112 (b)(4).
When such a covered transaction "results in the combination of crafts or classes that are subject to the Railway Labor Act," "sections 3 and 13 of the labor protective provisions imposed by the Civil Aeronautics Board ("CAB" or the "Board") in the Allegheny-Mohawk merger (as published at 59 C.A.B. 45) shall apply to the integration of covered employees of the covered air carriers." Id. § 42112(a).1 In short, these Allegheny-Mohawk Labor Protective Provisions ("LPPs") require that the carrier make provisions "for the integration of seniority lists in a fair and equitable manner," including negotiation with union representatives and binding arbitration in covered transactions. The participants in this negotiation/arbitration process are the affected employee groups, and the carrier or carriers involved. The interests of unionized employee groups are represented by their union, while interests of nonunionized employee groups may be represented by employee committees or by the carrier.
The legislation, known as the McCaskill-Bond statute, was signed into law in December 2007 and is codified at 49 U.S.C. § 42112.
The statute applies when two or more air carriers are involved in a "covered transaction," described as:
A transaction for the combination of multiple air carriers into a single air carrier; and which
Involves the transfer of ownership or control of—
50 percent or more of the equity securities (as defined in section 101 of title 11, * United States Code) of an air carrier; or
50 percent or more (by value) of the assets of the air carrier. 49 U.S.C. § 42112 (b)(4).
When such a covered transaction "results in the combination of crafts or classes that are subject to the Railway Labor Act," "sections 3 and 13 of the labor protective provisions imposed by the Civil Aeronautics Board ("CAB" or the "Board") in the Allegheny-Mohawk merger (as published at 59 C.A.B. 45) shall apply to the integration of covered employees of the covered air carriers." Id. § 42112(a).1 In short, these Allegheny-Mohawk Labor Protective Provisions ("LPPs") require that the carrier make provisions "for the integration of seniority lists in a fair and equitable manner," including negotiation with union representatives and binding arbitration in covered transactions. The participants in this negotiation/arbitration process are the affected employee groups, and the carrier or carriers involved. The interests of unionized employee groups are represented by their union, while interests of nonunionized employee groups may be represented by employee committees or by the carrier.
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