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01-26-2012, 12:08 PM
#2041
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Posts: 536
"I" As well,
For Lake we are going to have to agree to disagree. Best of luck to the new folks who are considering JetBlue...we are not perfect but we are still a great profitable company that has a great future.
Lake thanks for the healthy debate, keep it civil and continue to respect other's opinions.
For Lake we are going to have to agree to disagree. Best of luck to the new folks who are considering JetBlue...we are not perfect but we are still a great profitable company that has a great future.
Lake thanks for the healthy debate, keep it civil and continue to respect other's opinions.
01-26-2012, 12:20 PM
#2042
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Position: A320 FO
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Does anyone know if there are any plans to let those of us in Phase II aka Limbo know we're through Phase II at least? I can weather the storm of no class dates until doomsday if I know for sure I'm in a pool.
01-26-2012, 12:48 PM
#2043
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Position: F0
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Delta's is with Alaska. Theirs specifies once a certain load level is reached the route is then assumed by Delta. A negotiated clause is a CBA. JetBlue pilots gave that right away. So all west coast flying to HA is not subject to a PVC vote. There is no opportunity for JetBlue pilots to regain the route.
Incorrect.
HawaiianMiles: Use on Partner Airlines - Hawaiian Airlines
where did you even get that? These routes were ex-nwa and original DAL established way before Alaska ever flew to Hawaii.
01-26-2012, 02:14 PM
#2044
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Posts: 73
Hey Alice, last I checked United pilots was ALPA right? ok, just wanted to make sure... What happened to their pension? Oh, gone.. how about US Airways... Gone... Oh and one more thing, do some research on an airline that flys pretty green planes from dulles to Madrid for united... I personally would not be against a internal union at JB. HOWEVER, I do not agree for one second that a union, especially one that is in it for a buck like ALPA, is 100%. Just my 2 cents
01-26-2012, 03:01 PM
#2045
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Lake Alice you should start your own unionized airline. Clearly you know everything there
is about running an airline. Guess you missed your true calling.
is about running an airline. Guess you missed your true calling.
01-26-2012, 06:21 PM
#2046
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Position: 190 FO
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Hey Alice, last I checked United pilots was ALPA right? ok, just wanted to make sure... What happened to their pension? Oh, gone.. how about US Airways... Gone... Oh and one more thing, do some research on an airline that flys pretty green planes from dulles to Madrid for united... I personally would not be against a internal union at JB. HOWEVER, I do not agree for one second that a union, especially one that is in it for a buck like ALPA, is 100%. Just my 2 cents
01-26-2012, 08:33 PM
#2047
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If some of you think this is beating a dead horse wait until you see blue pilots. An entire forum dedicated to Alpa and all that is wrong with JB.
01-26-2012, 09:32 PM
#2048
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Position: A320 FO
Posts: 20
EVERY ALPA carrier is expanding???? REALLY? How about almost no ALPA carriers are growing. Delta and United (add US Airways and SW for ****s and giggles) are shrinking (2011) and forecasting negitive or flat ASM's for 2012. Mean while JB will be adding 11 aircraft and around 7% ASM's in 2012 after about the same growth on 2011.
Ordering Aircraft???? What ALPA carrier is adding more aircraft by % next year then JB? 2013? 2014?
What ALPA carriers have signed new contracts in the last few years? AirTran? What was it, 11 years between contracts for them? About the time JB has been in business? Who else? Remember, you said EVERY ALPA carrier.
You got one right, yes every ALPA carrier is making money, as is every non ALPA carrier outside of VA. Congrats.
01-27-2012, 09:10 AM
#2049
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Dude, are you just making this up as you go along?
EVERY ALPA carrier is expanding???? REALLY? How about almost no ALPA carriers are growing. Delta and United (add US Airways and SW for ****s and giggles) are shrinking (2011) and forecasting negitive or flat ASM's for 2012. Mean while JB will be adding 11 aircraft and around 7% ASM's in 2012 after about the same growth on 2011.
Ordering Aircraft???? What ALPA carrier is adding more aircraft by % next year then JB? 2013? 2014?
What ALPA carriers have signed new contracts in the last few years? AirTran? What was it, 11 years between contracts for them? About the time JB has been in business? Who else? Remember, you said EVERY ALPA carrier.
You got one right, yes every ALPA carrier is making money, as is every non ALPA carrier outside of VA. Congrats.
EVERY ALPA carrier is expanding???? REALLY? How about almost no ALPA carriers are growing. Delta and United (add US Airways and SW for ****s and giggles) are shrinking (2011) and forecasting negitive or flat ASM's for 2012. Mean while JB will be adding 11 aircraft and around 7% ASM's in 2012 after about the same growth on 2011.
Ordering Aircraft???? What ALPA carrier is adding more aircraft by % next year then JB? 2013? 2014?
What ALPA carriers have signed new contracts in the last few years? AirTran? What was it, 11 years between contracts for them? About the time JB has been in business? Who else? Remember, you said EVERY ALPA carrier.
You got one right, yes every ALPA carrier is making money, as is every non ALPA carrier outside of VA. Congrats.
01-27-2012, 09:12 AM
#2050
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Posts: 194
I can add and subtract. I can read a 10K report. I can read and understand the 5 documents and what they truly mean. Do you? Clearly not.. But we can agree to disagree.
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