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Old 01-05-2012, 06:06 AM
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3rd year blockholder f/o on the A320 can earn over 100K just fyi.
That's good news... Thanks
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Old 01-05-2012, 06:49 AM
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For the people who got the email about being in the pool. How are you taking that? Basically a job offer and waiting for a date? Just wondering people's opinions for the purpose of notifying current job.

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Old 01-05-2012, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
If what you are saying is that ANY open time pick up on a day off for a reserve would go automatically above guarantee THAT would be great news. Even my last less than stellar regional had all open time paid above guarantee at 150%. It would be nice to see that here.
Yes, ANY open time flown on a scheduled day off would go on top of your 75hr reserve guarantee, but not if youre willing to work pick it up for no extra pay now

Do whatcha gotta do, but I will be waiting for the FSM 2010 to go into effect before I pick any OT on days off.
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by windrider
3rd year blockholder f/o on the A320 can earn over 100K just fyi.
Even when the latest trend of monthly hours is below 78 hours? Sure was easy when the lines were 85-90 hours a month. Wonder why it seems to be just below 78 hours, hmmmm?
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Old 01-05-2012, 08:33 AM
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Unless you are awarded island red eyes(7-8 hours each) you WILL NOT make 100K in year 3. You would need to bid and be awarded every RSA, bid and be awarded a max schedule and pick up as much flying on days off. You would have to sit on the computer day in day out using a now illegal bot to refresh crewtrac just to have a shot.

Anyone coming to B6 do not count on six figures at year 3.
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Old 01-05-2012, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by windrider
3rd year blockholder f/o on the A320 can earn over 100K just fyi.
Um, WOW, no. Not for 99 percent of us. Following are some actual statistics to back up my numbers:

I commute, fly mid-productivity, and bid 67 percent (from the top, to clarify) in the 320 seat at JFK. I spent 6 months BOS-based, where I bid about 50 percent. I have 4 plus years with JetBlue; my 2010 number is based on 2/3rds of the year at year 4 and 1/3rd year 5 pay. I average 14-15 days off per month by sacrificing some productivity for commutability. For 2011 I blocked 665 hours and credited 1017. Before anyone gets all excited about soft time, the credit time includes 130 hours of training credit (transition training with zero block, plus recurrent) as well as vacation and PTO.

I will gross 107K for 2011, not including perdiem. This includes all other sources of pay (night override, QDL, holiday, PTO, parking reimbursement). Of this, roughly 84K is at straight pay, 11.5 is premium, and the rest is night override, vacation, training pay, etc. I fly a fair amount of transcon red-eyes.

For a third year blockholder to gross over 100k you'd have to average 92 hours credit per month over the entire year. If you live in Ozone Park, and are an RSA ***** or better yet one of the BOT or cartel guys, this might be possible. For a guy commuting to work, I'm gonna say impossible unless you hate your family (or vice versa) and want to spend 20 days in the pad. Maybe not even then.
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:12 AM
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Is there a source document that a guy in the pool can read to get smart on how RSV works and the bidding process. Maybe a cliff notes version?
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Old 01-05-2012, 10:49 AM
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We have a scheduling manual that we read. It is a system based on complex trigonometry, witchcraft, magic, pixy dust and smoke and mirrors.

There is a big flow chart and many topics based on call out and I still dont get it. The basic metric is they have an excel doc that comes out each day with reserve guys listed. There are basic stats such as total credit, 30 in 7, last trip, next trip and a few others. The basic idea is they want to use everyone evenly to enhance your availability at all times while ensuring everyone ends the month with the lowest possible credit.

This month due to reserve staffing they pre released two of my days at the bid award which left me with 14 days off. I am on a 5 day reserve stretch now and the first 3 have been long call.

Any particular questions you are looking to have answered? Many can help. Not me, but smart people.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:48 AM
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We have a scheduling manual that we read. It is a system based on complex trigonometry, witchcraft, magic, pixy dust and smoke and mirrors.

There is a big flow chart and many topics based on call out and I still dont get it. The basic metric is they have an excel doc that comes out each day with reserve guys listed. There are basic stats such as total credit, 30 in 7, last trip, next trip and a few others. The basic idea is they want to use everyone evenly to enhance your availability at all times while ensuring everyone ends the month with the lowest possible credit.

This month due to reserve staffing they pre released two of my days at the bid award which left me with 14 days off. I am on a 5 day reserve stretch now and the first 3 have been long call.

Any particular questions you are looking to have answered? Many can help. Not me, but smart people.
As an FNG, I'll probably be either rsv out of BOS or JFK. How many days of crash pad time am I looking at. How long is long call. Can a junior guy get long call.

My wife and I are empty-nesters. If I'm going to be in a crash pad for 14 days, I'm considering buying an RV and living at a KOA near domicile for a year. But, it sounds like I may be able to sit long call from say, the DFW area, and have very few short call days.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:55 AM
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You are looking at 12 days off per month. In the case of this month there was enough total reserve coverage where they were able to pre-release all on reserve for two of those days. On my schedule on two separate days where I would have been on RSV I am now off and it says PRL. This month it gives me 14 days off total which I have known about since the month prior.

Without digging out the scheduling manual there is a formula for determining long call. I stack my days to get more off in a row. It says something along the lines that if you are on reserve for 6 days then 3 will be long call or something like that. My schedule for this week with 6 on automatically showed up as 4 days of long call and 2 days of short call. This is all subject to change and you will not know until noon the day prior. It is after noon time so I know that tomorrow is LCR since it has already been released. Although my schedule shows Saturday as LCR that does not mean I will get it, they may convert that to SCR which I will not know until noon tomorrow.

LCR is a 14 hour call out from contact to checkin. It has nothing to do with seniority as to who gets LCR or SCR.

Read this thread from August..has some good info in it. http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...commuting.html

edit: Changed 5 on for my schedule this week to 6 on. I am on RSV for 6 days this week with the first 4 being LCR although I will not know if Saturday will remain LCR until tomorrow at noon.
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