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Old 11-05-2010, 09:39 AM
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I just wanted to point out this article isn't new (that's why I asked for the link), it's dated September 13, 2010. So, there isn't anything new in the article.

I think the next step in the process is for the FAA to review comments to the NPRM, then issue the final rule.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:42 AM
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I though the comment period ended on Nov 15, 2010 and the rules would be out after that. I looked at the line and thought the same thing.
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Old 11-05-2010, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
What about someone who lives in base, got the kids to school, did some errands, mowed the lawn, then does an ORD-LHR vs someone who slept on the commuter flight in for 2 hours? GMAFB.
That's a little creepy...you just summed up my whole day, except for the flying part.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:15 AM
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Bog I agree. I had more "opportunity" for rest when I was a commuter than I do living in base.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:25 AM
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You guys can't tell me that commuting in day of and being awake for 24 hours is safe....right?
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:28 AM
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All of the guys I know who opt to commute either come in the night before or make it to base with at least three hrs prior to report. They then take a nice nap to add to the nap they took on the flight.

Many of the guys that live in base play House daddy or mommy until the last possible minute then jump in the shower and rush to the airport.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:08 PM
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You know that all you guys can have an impact on the final ruling! Go here, follow the instructions and let your voices be heard http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...tion-nprm.html. I wrote a personal letter to Babbitt calling for real leadership. I suggest you all do the same as this legislation could have in impact for our profession for the next 50 years!
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:00 PM
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There is no way this part will be passed or could be policed. If it does pass then it leaves the door wide open for our private lives to be policed as well. If I have a morning show and commute in the evening before, why should my private life be scrutinized more than the guy who lives in base and stays out late? Even if you don't go out, are they going to monitor your T.V. To make sure you didn't stay up and watch a movie until 1:00 am?
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
The NPRM states, "Accordingly, time spent commuting, either locally or long distance, is not considered rest, and a certificate holder will need to consider the commuting times required by individual flight crew members to ensure they can reach their home base while still receiving the required opportunity for rest."Between rest periods, pilots' maximum duty time would be lowered from 16 hr. currently to 13 hr., "which could slide to 9 hours at night," according to FAA.
That's kinda vague....seams like I can just make a deal with the devi......or I mean my CS dept and tell them I have "received the required opportunity for rest". They're gonna be stuck reducing my duty to 13 hours anyway. Oh wait I only have 12 per contract right now....what the heck???....
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
So someone driving in from 3 hours away to his home base is different from someone flying in from 50 minutes away?????????? Who is more rested? Good luck with that. What about someone who lives in base, got the kids to school, did some errands, mowed the lawn, then does an ORD-LHR vs someone who slept on the commuter flight in for 2 hours? GMAFB.

The problem with what you post is that all the same issues could apply to a commuter pilot in addition to his commute. I am a life long commuter but I see pilots who abuse the ability to do so all the time. We need to work more to self police ourselves before the FAA does it for us.
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