Is the grass greener? (Military to Airlines)
12-27-2010, 06:48 PM
#161
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Joined APC: Mar 2010
Posts: 255
Two questions...
1. Oil is $91.05/barrel and going up. What is the forum's opinion on how this will affect projected hiring numbers?
2. My dad is a furloughed (now retired) 25-year Midwest captain. I grew up shadowing him preflighting DC-9-10s early mornings on the ATW ramp. I always thought I'd do 8 AD, then go ANG/airlines (wanted to be a United pilot). However I earned my MBA (U of AZ in-residence) and am interested in management (gasp!). As a 1500-hour single-seat guy with an MBA, what's the forum's opinion on the best path to VP of Ops (ala Joe Kolshak)?
1. Oil is $91.05/barrel and going up. What is the forum's opinion on how this will affect projected hiring numbers?
2. My dad is a furloughed (now retired) 25-year Midwest captain. I grew up shadowing him preflighting DC-9-10s early mornings on the ATW ramp. I always thought I'd do 8 AD, then go ANG/airlines (wanted to be a United pilot). However I earned my MBA (U of AZ in-residence) and am interested in management (gasp!). As a 1500-hour single-seat guy with an MBA, what's the forum's opinion on the best path to VP of Ops (ala Joe Kolshak)?
12-27-2010, 07:23 PM
#162
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Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,530
Two questions...
1. Oil is $91.05/barrel and going up. What is the forum's opinion on how this will affect projected hiring numbers?
2. My dad is a furloughed (now retired) 25-year Midwest captain. I grew up shadowing him preflighting DC-9-10s early mornings on the ATW ramp. I always thought I'd do 8 AD, then go ANG/airlines (wanted to be a United pilot). However I earned my MBA (U of AZ in-residence) and am interested in management (gasp!). As a 1500-hour single-seat guy with an MBA, what's the forum's opinion on the best path to VP of Ops (ala Joe Kolshak)?
1. Oil is $91.05/barrel and going up. What is the forum's opinion on how this will affect projected hiring numbers?
2. My dad is a furloughed (now retired) 25-year Midwest captain. I grew up shadowing him preflighting DC-9-10s early mornings on the ATW ramp. I always thought I'd do 8 AD, then go ANG/airlines (wanted to be a United pilot). However I earned my MBA (U of AZ in-residence) and am interested in management (gasp!). As a 1500-hour single-seat guy with an MBA, what's the forum's opinion on the best path to VP of Ops (ala Joe Kolshak)?
12-27-2010, 07:46 PM
#163
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 536
Two questions...
1. Oil is $91.05/barrel and going up. What is the forum's opinion on how this will affect projected hiring numbers?
2. My dad is a furloughed (now retired) 25-year Midwest captain. I grew up shadowing him preflighting DC-9-10s early mornings on the ATW ramp. I always thought I'd do 8 AD, then go ANG/airlines (wanted to be a United pilot). However I earned my MBA (U of AZ in-residence) and am interested in management (gasp!). As a 1500-hour single-seat guy with an MBA, what's the forum's opinion on the best path to VP of Ops (ala Joe Kolshak)?
1. Oil is $91.05/barrel and going up. What is the forum's opinion on how this will affect projected hiring numbers?
2. My dad is a furloughed (now retired) 25-year Midwest captain. I grew up shadowing him preflighting DC-9-10s early mornings on the ATW ramp. I always thought I'd do 8 AD, then go ANG/airlines (wanted to be a United pilot). However I earned my MBA (U of AZ in-residence) and am interested in management (gasp!). As a 1500-hour single-seat guy with an MBA, what's the forum's opinion on the best path to VP of Ops (ala Joe Kolshak)?
If leadership is your gig, go to Guard or Reserves and work for Future Command jobs.
Good Luck.
12-29-2010, 07:00 AM
#164
Looking for a laugh
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,099
Get hired and then sell your soul and be prepared to royally screw over all pilots at the airline.
As an aside, Kolshak will never make it to the top, (CEO, President,) because he proved he can't be trusted. Just like a trustie in a prison. He may be the top prisoner with special privileges, but in the end, he is still a prisoner. Dispised by all the other prisoners and guards.
Then again, I may be wrong. I'm just a grumpy Delta prisoner. Maybe a United prisoner was treated better by him and can help you out.....
12-29-2010, 07:41 AM
#165
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 767A
Posts: 791
Whatever you do, don't set our sights on being another Kolshak. He could not distinguish between being loyal from being merely a yes-man. No conscience, no soul.
12-29-2010, 08:57 AM
#166
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Legacy FO
Posts: 4,105
Here's my experience: I got out in 1997 for the airline paycheck and looking for a better quality of life. After 5 years of work slowages, contract issues, company infighting, and being gone from home more than I ever was in the military (18 days a month every month), I wound up with a furlough. Luckily, the AF took me back in 2003 and I won't go back until I get my retirement from the AF. I worked with pilots who had been through 2 company disentegrations (PanAm/Eastern) and had started over as many times only to wind up with nothing in the bank for retirement. My recommendation: get your retirement from the military first. The grass is definitely not greener, and as much as people gripe about the BS in the military, it's a heck of a lot more stable for your family, and there is just as much BS in the airlines, it's just different.
Each person's case will be different. You must rank order your priorities and what is important to you. Then do the comparison.
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