SWAPA has a TA about the 737-800
10-15-2010, 05:45 PM
#33
Careful w/that axe Eugene
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And airplanes don't generate revenue, cuz they cost money and are an expense,
and the baggage belt-loader doesn't generate revenue cuz they cost money,
and well, I guess the only thing that generates revenue according to your logic is ...what? The air because it's free? No wait, it just helps generate lift.
Did you take economics the same place you got your ATP and type-ratings?
You wanna work for less, great. There's a little airport a couple miles from me pays tow-pilots $3 per tow.
Meanwhile....
Pie-lut...time to shut the pie-hole.
and the baggage belt-loader doesn't generate revenue cuz they cost money,
and well, I guess the only thing that generates revenue according to your logic is ...what? The air because it's free? No wait, it just helps generate lift.
Did you take economics the same place you got your ATP and type-ratings?
You wanna work for less, great. There's a little airport a couple miles from me pays tow-pilots $3 per tow.
Meanwhile....
Pie-lut...time to shut the pie-hole.
10-15-2010, 05:51 PM
#34
Back on TDY
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Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
And airplanes don't generate revenue, cuz they cost money and are an expense,
and the baggage belt-loader doesn't generate revenue cuz they cost money,
and well, I guess the only thing that generates revenue according to your logic is ...what? The air because it's free? No wait, it just helps generate lift.
Did you take economics the same place you got your ATP and type-ratings?
You wanna work for less, great. There's a little airport a couple miles from me pays tow-pilots $3 per tow.
Meanwhile....
Pie-lut...time to shut the pie-hole.
and the baggage belt-loader doesn't generate revenue cuz they cost money,
and well, I guess the only thing that generates revenue according to your logic is ...what? The air because it's free? No wait, it just helps generate lift.
Did you take economics the same place you got your ATP and type-ratings?
You wanna work for less, great. There's a little airport a couple miles from me pays tow-pilots $3 per tow.
Meanwhile....
Pie-lut...time to shut the pie-hole.
Carl
10-15-2010, 06:08 PM
#36
veut gagner à la loterie
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dear lord, it was one thing to see Carl and Tsquare come together, but to see something that brings SWA and DAL pilots together!? 
Seriously, I hope SWA gets a pay raise for the 800s. Now we can bicker about companys but I believe one thing for sure- a pay raise for one pilot group is a good thing for every other pilot group.
Seriously, I hope SWA gets a pay raise for the 800s. Now we can bicker about companys but I believe one thing for sure- a pay raise for one pilot group is a good thing for every other pilot group.
10-15-2010, 06:23 PM
#37
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Who's kidding who,
Take the emotion out of this. The general air traveling public does not give a ******* about who is flying the airplane, they just want the cheapest ticket. Pilots do not generate any revenue, they are an expense, the job is to safely move the aircraft from location to location without killing anyone. Look at the rest of the economy, I am sorry but if you are making 200k you are not exactlly suffering. I never advocated pay going down or anyone's taxes going up.
Take the emotion out of this. The general air traveling public does not give a ******* about who is flying the airplane, they just want the cheapest ticket. Pilots do not generate any revenue, they are an expense, the job is to safely move the aircraft from location to location without killing anyone. Look at the rest of the economy, I am sorry but if you are making 200k you are not exactlly suffering. I never advocated pay going down or anyone's taxes going up.
I guess in a way that's true.
Here's one thing to remember when you move away from posting on airliners.net and come to airlinepilotforums, we're not 16 and telling everyone we're not only the CEO but a gold plus with platinum sprinkles medallion FFer and a veteran airline pilot and thus we know all.
BTW, Delta has 75,000 employees, almost 12,000 pilots, lots of planes and lots of stuff. But how many people do you have to have to earn a commercial air carrier certificate, the same type of certificate that Delta has? Uno. One. A pilot. The rest is just overkill.
10-15-2010, 06:59 PM
#38
Back on TDY
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Carl
10-16-2010, 04:53 PM
#39
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The side letter would give a small raise on ALL of our flying (I think about 1% over what we previously had). It also extends our contract and adds a profitability based raise in the new last year. As the company has been doing very well lately, these profitability based raises could be 3% or more.
Considering that we're not even going to see an -800 on the property for a while and by the end of the contract we'll still have very few, I don't think it's that bad. I may never fly an 800 in the next two years but I still get the raise.
Considering that we're not even going to see an -800 on the property for a while and by the end of the contract we'll still have very few, I don't think it's that bad. I may never fly an 800 in the next two years but I still get the raise.
10-16-2010, 05:32 PM
#40
Da Hudge
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The side letter would give a small raise on ALL of our flying (I think about 1% over what we previously had). It also extends our contract and adds a profitability based raise in the new last year. As the company has been doing very well lately, these profitability based raises could be 3% or more.
Considering that we're not even going to see an -800 on the property for a while and by the end of the contract we'll still have very few, I don't think it's that bad. I may never fly an 800 in the next two years but I still get the raise.
Considering that we're not even going to see an -800 on the property for a while and by the end of the contract we'll still have very few, I don't think it's that bad. I may never fly an 800 in the next two years but I still get the raise.
I was hoping for a bit more, but thats more for personal future contract negotations reasons.
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