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Old 09-29-2010, 05:07 AM
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Does anyone know of a Newly certified 121 company in Miami.

Who are the owners?

What are their operating plans/equipment?

Are they hiring?
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Let me guess, their called "Fly By Night" and their non-union. Also, they will tell you how this is the best time to apply for them. I applied to MaxJet. At the interview, I asked a lot of questions about there operation. Fortuntally, I wasn't hired. 3 months later they were out of business. I read throught there BS and wanted to know everything about them before I quit my job to go to a crapper one. All those guys who wanted HEAVY time now lost their seniority at there last job. Be very careful who you apply for , you may just get it and be out of a job in a few months. These jobs sound like a couple of airlines I worked for, stay away from start-up. They mostly go belly-up.
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Let me guess, their called "Fly By Night" and their non-union. Also, they will tell you how this is the best time to apply for them. I applied to MaxJet. At the interview, I asked a lot of questions about there operation. Fortuntally, I wasn't hired. 3 months later they were out of business. I read throught there BS and wanted to know everything about them before I quit my job to go to a crapper one. All those guys who wanted HEAVY time now lost their seniority at there last job. Be very careful who you apply for , you may just get it and be out of a job in a few months. These jobs sound like a couple of airlines I worked for, stay away from start-up. They mostly go belly-up.
You need to get your facts straight Scumby. A number of original crewmembers were with major carriers and took early retirement to protect their pension accounts. As I recall a number them came from carriers that were supposed to be protected by their unions. Other crewmembers who I personally knew and flew with were furloughed from other carriers... both union and non union.

As I recall, Jet Blue was a start up carrier in 2000, as was Allegiant in the late 90s, and Virgin American about 3 years ago. Check Flight Tracker, they're still flying.

Hey, wait a sec... what ever happened to those old union legacy carriers... Eastern, Pan Am???

Bottom line Scumby is that life's a crap shoot.

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Hey, wait a sec... what ever happened to those old union legacy carriers... Eastern, Pan Am???

I watched both for years, and flew for the latter. What I did find is that both had very expensive "ramps", which (being a business major) contributed to their financial difficulties. You don't need eight rampies to load and pushback a medium body jet when six can accomplish this task.

The pilots who scored were on the A-310 at PanAm when Delta purchased the Atlantic operation in December, 1991. These pilots were given Delta seniority numbers with something to the order of one to nine, but at least they have numbers. The rest were given priority treatment at Northwest, World, United, and UPS.
Eastern came back with some A300's with Martin Shugrue at the helm, another ill-fated attempt at the resurrection of an airline giant.

Also be very careful when applying to these upstart airlines and insure that they actually have an FAR Part 121 certificate in hand,
particularly if there's an application fee involved. There have been a couple of scams where the new 'airline' was collecting an application fee with no intentions of ever getting off the ground.
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Also be very careful when applying to these upstart airlines and insure that they actually have an FAR Part 121 certificate in hand, particularly if there's an application fee involved. There have been a couple of scams where the new 'airline' was collecting an application fee with no intentions of ever getting off the ground.


Reputable airlines do not require a candidate to bare expenses, with the exception of food, in connection with an interview. This includes the promise of reimbursement for travel expenses after attending the interview… with one compromise, which is common and not unreasonable, which is to pay one’s way to an airlines’ gateway city from one’s hometown airport. But with jump seat privileges out there that should me a moot point. Personally, if there is no return airline ticket along with a prepaid hotel reservation, I extend the courtesy of declining the invitation for attending the interview, as that company looking for crews is a potential bottom feeder.

I have and still aver, pilots seeking employment at any airline, be they legacy, LCCs, expat carriers, need to do their own due diligence before attending an interview. After all as some may remember, Si Simm used to declare “An educated consumer is our best customer” the same applies to potential candidates for employment with any company for any position.
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Scumby,

Are you seriously that bad at spelling and grammar? Really? If you did that on purpose, my apologies.
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Originally Posted by MNPS 50N50W
Does anyone know of a Newly certified 121 company in Miami.

Who are the owners?

What are their operating plans/equipment?

Are they hiring?
1500 views, and no one knows anything about this company, or its operations....
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Scumby,

Are you seriously that bad at spelling and grammar? Really? If you did that on purpose, my apologies.
APC seems to have gotten by without the spelling police from Pprunne, but in this case it's really needed....
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You can look this up on the FAA site, just for starters.
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Are there really airlines that pay for your hotel room at the interview? I know United didn't, nor did they pay for the hotel in training.
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