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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 878527)
Now what DAL has realized is that it is more efficient to move some pax though MSP and DTW versus ATL. The connecting traffic is what DAL is trying to siphon off of ATL.
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Originally Posted by EF77
(Post 878573)
DL/B6 makes more sense with regards to JFK and caribbean. DL gives up T2 at JFK, T3 already scheduled for demo, they move intl ops into already announced new construction at T4 and run domestic out of T5. B6's caribbean presence does more to bolster DL's weaker presence when compared to AA.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 878594)
Wrong engines on the 'buses.
Nu Get a large enough amount of planes with each and it works. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 878527)
I beleive he was stating at as a total percentage of traffic Delta and other airlines have versus O and D pax per hub.
Now what DAL has realized is that it is more efficient to move some pax though MSP and DTW versus ATL. The connecting traffic is what DAL is trying to siphon off of ATL. Metro Daily O&D total total O&D O&D % # of Airports New York 127,801 51,883,694 23,131,981 44.60% 6 airports Los Angeles 104,723 34,789,171 18,954,863 54.50% 4 airports Chicago 86,821 39,281,585 15,714,601 40.00% 2 airports Miami 79,636 31,262,044 14,414,116 46.10% 3 airports Las Vegas 73,138 20,224,090 13,237,978 65.50% San Francisco 68,838 22,139,378 12,459,678 56.30% 2 airports Orlando 68,040 18,211,975 12,315,240 67.60% 2 airports Dallas/Ft.Worth 59,577 31,149,065 10,783,437 34.60% 2 airports Atlanta 56,645 43,008,154 10,252,745 23.80% Phoenix 54,040 18,968,897 9,781,240 51.60% Denver 53,747 24,337,554 9,728,207 40.00% Washington 52,832 19,915,669 9,562,592 48.00% 2 airports Boston 44,673 12,068,312 8,085,813 67.00% Seattle 43,376 14,787,443 7,851,056 53.10% Philadelphia 41,860 14,878,298 7,576,660 50.90% Houston 39,021 23,606,848 7,062,801 29.90% 2 airports Tampa 39,021 9,348,162 7,062,801 75.30% 2 airports Baltimore 38,901 10,001,992 7,041,081 70.30% San Diego 36,242 8,171,820 6,559,802 80.30% Minneapolis 34,399 16,173,119 6,226,219 38.50% Detroit 33,128 15,715,346 5,996,168 38.20% Salt Lake City 22,696 9,988,837 4,107,976 41.10% St. Louis 22,361 6,258,829 4,047,341 64.70% Portland 22,144 6,116,995 4,008,064 65.50% Sacramento 20,175 4,356,274 3,651,675 83.80% Kansas City 19,973 4,685,648 3,615,113 77.20% Charlotte 19,562 17,215,648 3,540,722 20.60% Raleigh/Durham 18,585 4,291,234 3,363,885 78.40% San Jose 18,581 4,039,922 3,363,161 83.30% New Orleans 18,378 3,977,881 3,326,418 83.60% Austin 17,189 3,915,683 3,111,209 79.50% Pittsburgh 16,913 3,922,714 3,061,253 78.00% San Antonio 16,777 3,830,211 3,036,637 79.30% Nashville 16,751 4,329,413 3,031,931 70.00% Indianapolis 16,377 4,155,161 2,964,237 71.30% Riverside 14,623 3,302,863 2,646,763 80.10% 2 airports Columbus 13,328 3,028,930 2,412,368 79.60% Jacksonville 12,741 2,835,324 2,306,121 81.30% Milwaukee 12,541 3,560,224 2,269,921 63.80% Hartford 12,099 3,056,490 2,189,919 71.70% Cleveland 11,767 4,719,504 2,129,827 45.10% Buffalo 11,662 2,536,000 2,110,822 83.20% Providence 10,617 2,168,664 1,921,677 88.60% Norfolk 9,343 2,140,859 1,691,083 79.00% 2 airports Cincinnati 7,976 5,416,171 1,443,656 26.70% Memphis 7,408 4,855,090 1,340,848 27.60% Oklahoma City 6,763 1,643,426 1,224,103 74.50% Louisville 6,697 1,593,425 1,212,157 76.10% Richmond 6,617 1,608,958 1,197,677 74.40% Birmingham 5,845 1,444,029 1,057,945 73.30% |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 878452)
Huh? ATL has a very high percentage of O and D traffic. That is one of the reasons its one of the most profitable hubs for any airline.
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to the powers that be...
All in favor of SWA/AAI Merger having its own Sub forum under the Major section instead of being castigated, as most of DAL/NWA's best merger discussions, to the out of sight out of mindpilot lounge > mergers and acquisitions pages, please say I.
FTB says I. Thats 1. Not to mention, the success of this one thread versus the existing UAL/CAL thread, and the popularity of this thread for DAL pilots ;) makes me think that the SWA/AAI merger has proven itself to be worthy of a sub forum like the UAL/CAL merger. Another words, if UAL/CAL got one I think SWA/AAI deserves one because I know I wished the DAL/NWA one had it. do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it :D |
Originally Posted by Bigflya
(Post 876896)
I don't see the DOT or any Federal Agency putting up any resistance or forcing any changes to this deal. They pretty much bend over for SWA. They even include them somehow as beneficiaries in other airline mergers and slot swap dealings. Kelly pretty much said on CNBC that they are going after the NYC market with the slots in EWR from the CAL merger and AAI's prescence in LGA. I also got a sense that it was all about timing on not announcing this merger until after the CAL deal closed. Bet CAL is feeling srewed by the feds right now. At what point do the feds feel that swa is no longer a "start-up" and does not need "help" competing in the market.
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 878740)
Huh??
Carl Carl, Reread the posted data carefully. Atlanta carries more O&D traffic then any other single airport in the nation except LAS!!! You can't get much better then that. Note the small figure at the end titled number of airports. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 879006)
Carl, Reread the posted data carefully. Atlanta carries more O&D traffic then any other single airport in the nation except LAS!!! You can't get much better then that. Note the small figure at the end titled number of airports.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 878452)
Huh? ATL has a very high percentage of O and D traffic. That is one of the reasons its one of the most profitable hubs for any airline.
SAN..80% 1 airport PIT...78% 1 airport BAL...70% 1 airport BOS..67% 1 airport LAS...66% 1 airport PDX...65% 1 airport PHX...52% 1 airport PHL...51% 1 airport and ATL...23.8% 1 airport Carl |
what's O & D?
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