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forgot to bid 09-28-2010 12:15 PM

Dear Moderators,
Is it possible if UAL/CAL have there own Sub-forums under Major to allow SWA/AAI to have one too?

Otherwise, I miss out on the new thread about the SLI with Drift, because I really wanted to ask a question about whether there would be a TA?

In fact, I was going to dedicate the post to the letters T and A, just like Seaseme Street did with this recent episode with Katy Perry:

http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/201...-sesame-st.jpg



sometimes life just throws you gems.

BalloonChaser 09-28-2010 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 877475)
Captain Picard will always win against a bunch of lockstep automatons....

I like our Captain Picard's chances. Have fun on your next LIT layover. I'll send ya a postcard from Rome.

"We come in peace - Shoot to kill!" :eek:

Gunfighter 09-28-2010 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 877732)
I'm going to have to say that if Carlspackler is a SWA pilot and Carl Spackler is a 747 Delta pilot, then I make a motion to have only 1 Carl Spackler and I think the one with the most posts win.

Is seniority by # of posts, date joined APC? What impact is there if one posts with a Mac and the other a PC? Does one have higher career posting expecations? % of posts relative to the size of the thread they usually post to? # of views vs. # of posts? Both are viable posting entities so does M-B and A-M apply? Is it a windfall if one keeps the name at the other's expense?

It could be years before it is sorted out.

Captain Bligh 09-28-2010 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 877713)
I think he wants out of the RJ so bad, that he's hoping for an online recommendation to join SWA.

Don't you mean the "opportunity to work for SWA"?

727C47 09-28-2010 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 877482)
Yup.... too bad it breaks the model though... it will be interesting to watch.

the model isn't set in stone,they broke the model once before in the late 80's with 727s,the 717s should actually work out for them in the smaller markets, i respect them for doing all their own flying, ala 717 ,instead of a CR9.

shiznit 09-28-2010 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 877764)
Is seniority by # of posts, date joined APC? What impact is there if one posts with a Mac and the other a PC? Does one have higher career posting expecations? % of posts relative to the size of the thread they usually post to? # of views vs. # of posts? Both are viable posting entities so does M-B and A-M apply? Is it a windfall if one keeps the name at the other's expense?

It could be years before it is sorted out.

Post of the Day.

Good stuff.

tsquare 09-28-2010 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 727C47 (Post 877828)
the model isn't set in stone,they broke the model once before in the late 80's with 727s,the 717s should actually work out for them in the smaller markets, i respect them for doing all their own flying, ala 717 ,instead of a CR9.

Maybe not, but the businesses are much more bottom line driven than they were in the 80s. There is no way that adding a second airframe to the fleet is remotely cost neutral. Welcome to the big time.

forgot to bid 09-28-2010 05:56 PM

http://sg.wsj.net/public/resources/i...0927193402.gif

^^^ From WSJ

Southwest Airlines to Buy AirTran - WSJ.com

small excerpt, I hate posting an entire article because even though I used to do so I now just skip over them unless someone highlights in bold. Yep, that lazy. I like to find articles on my own news.google.com search. But now that the dust has settled, a more intelligent recap: :cool:


"I think Delta is going to be facing a pretty significant challenge," said Hunter Keay, an airline analyst at Stifel Nicolaus.

Delta said it wasn't concerned with the arrival of a bigger competitor at its hub, noting Southwest can't match its global network of more than 350 cities across six continents.

"Delta successfully competes with [AirTran and Southwest] in most of the major domestic markets we serve," said Betsy Talton, a Delta spokeswoman.

Southwest and AirTran serve about 30 of the same cities, which could trigger heightened scrutiny by antitrust regulators worried about competition in some markets.

The merger also could unravel if unionized pilots from Southwest and AirTran fail to reach agreement on how to combine seniority lists, which determine salaries. Southwest pulled out of a bankruptcy-court auction for Frontier Airlines Holdings Inc. last year after pilots couldn't quickly agree to terms.
From everything I've heard, AAI pilots are estatic. Question is, would SWA pilots be happy on a ratioed SLI?

and...

The Southwest CEO added the combined airline could expand beyond AirTran's limited international routes into South America over the next three to five years. But flights to Europe aren't in the cards anytime soon, he added.

A Southwest-AirTran tie-up could heighten pressure on other discount airlines, including JetBlue Airways Corp. But larger legacy airlines such as Delta or American likely would be prevented from acquiring that discount airline because of antitrust concerns, said Mr. Keay, the analyst.

forgot to bid 09-28-2010 06:00 PM

Is Southwest Overpaying for AirTran? - Deal Journal - WSJ

Did you know there was a $39 break up fee. Wow, how much was Tigers? $180M?

OscartheGrouch 09-28-2010 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 877475)
Captain Picard will always win against a bunch of lockstep automatons....

I like our Captain Picard's chances. Have fun on your next LIT layover. I'll send ya a postcard from Rome.

Now TS,

I happen to think LIT Ron's are great because my newly married daughter lives near there. After all, having visited there a couple of weeks ago it is pretty close to foreign to me.:eek:

The Oscar


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