MAGNUM

If our union would give more focus to increasing our payscales instead of finding ways to get us to donate money we might make some head way. All of these great ideas are worthless until we get a union that can unite these ideas and push them until change is achieved. Broken down futhermore, until ALPA national starts representing the interest of pilots we are all wasting our time on here.

RJSAviator76

So what? You have a number of companies that promote from within, and you have companies that don't. The companies that don't, they tend to have a revolving door. There would be nothing stopping you from going somewhere else and selling your services to the highest bidder. Others might come ahead of you, but you can also choose to go elsewhere too. It all boils down to company culture.

This can be addressed down the road... but more importantly... we're talking about the justification of the seniority-based pay structure.

I mentioned in another post when I was a 4th year 737 FO, and there was a newhire pilot who spent at least a decade longer in the industry than me, had thousands of hours in a 737 more than me, had twice my total time, yet I was making 3 times his wage STRICTLY because of date of hire. I thought that was insanely wrong. That was my second big eye opener about the wrongness of the current system. The first was when we were told during our concession talks - we should take this pay cut because it's better than having to start over making 1st year wage again somewhere else.



What's sad is that that "uber low time ab-initio Euro-elitist" makes at least twice the wage right out of school with 200 hours total time than you do after years and years of "paying your dues." Again, who's the chump?