Splash

Me = Messenger.

As I wrote, the comment was from a recruiter. It's interesting to hear of opaque activities from a group that lists transparency as their foundation.

Splash

I think its because pilots like to hear lawyers coo in their ear, trying to convince them that they are victims. It's easy to do.

Not all of us buy into though. Carl and I both crossed a picket line orchestrated by Seham. We did it because Seham failed to advise his clients that they were making a huge mistake by not working with the other unions at NWA. AMFA is gone. The checks to Seham cleared.

ExAF

Nope...a FLAP
(No insult intended, just standing up for the academy pukes)

tsquare

Ummm what?

zoomiezombie

Any of you lawyers types want to guess what this means?
Doesn't a stay mean the trial is stopped completely? Why would the court stop proceedings for 30 days? Has something happened? Seems like part of the story is missing here like a stay of execution?

Not that I care with an expired card and no donation but I'm not sure that a billboard "somewhere" on the 25 miles to mecca is a great use of donations. The home of the Koolaide man himself? It's gone from really close and ATL has more DPA members than anyone to we needed to spend money to tell ATL pilots we exist using a billboard?

Oh man, and the 50 question GoAwayTeam (GAT) "When did you stop beating your wife?" questionnaire Talk about leading questions....

tsquare

What questionnaire?

Splash

August, 2005. The Mechanics union at NWA (AMFA) went on strike. Previously, ALPA tried to get AMFA to join a labor coalition with the other unions at NWA, but AMFA rejected those offers.

When the NWA MEC chair met with Delle-Femmine, and the AMFA lawyer (Seham), ALPA was told the mechanics had intel from the training center where the scab mechanics were being trained. The intel showed many of the scab mechanics were failing background checks, so there was no risk of NWA being able to operate.

ALPA had the ability to sympathy strike in support of any of the unions on the property, but as the cooling off period played out, AMFA pumped up the rhetoric that predicted the pay raises the mechanics were demanding would be offset by pay cuts by pilots. A few days prior to the end of the cooling off period, ALPA advised all pilots that they would be permitted to honor the AMFA picket line if they chose, with no threat of reprisal, but that there was no pay for trips missed. (That is from the arbitrators ruling in 1981)

100% of the pilots crossed the picket line over the next 15 months, including Carl and myself.

I think the quality of the legal advice they got from Seham was lacking.

You can read about it here.

http://teamster.org/sites/teamster.o...ines(2008).pdf

tsquare

thanks splash.

Stratosphere

Don't believe everything you read. This is a teamster rag put out to the UAL mechanics. Well they now have the teamsters ask any UAL mechanic how they like it? Teamsters is without a doubt the worst representation they have had to date. AMFA did make mistakes no doubt about it at NWA I am living proof I lost close to 20 years there. Have no doubt about what you say about Seham from what I have seen.

Splash

I don't. I was there. I remember reading the AMFA bulletin board below the F concourse telling mechanics that pilots would be expected to take pay cuts to fund mechanic raises.

I linked to it because it had the simplest summary in pdf format. The facts are in the link, regardless of the fiery language.

I can't question your opinion of the IBT at United, but that's not the point. The point is that AMFA and DPA have the same DNA, and lawyer, and they were an utter disaster for their membership at NWA.

I'm sorry to hear about your lost time at NWA. The mechanics were led off a cliff by a poorly-run union with mercenary advisors.