gloopy

And anything beyond that (their fantasy award is well north of a Billion) will come pilferred directly from the membership. I just don't see that happening. There is no way each ALPA pilot, most of which are RJ drivers not exactly making a ton of money, will be on the hook for 20K or more direct wealth transfer to the innocent victims that didn't get to slide on over with full relative seniority because of some conspiracy theory to woo the APA or whatever. Best case (for them) it will cause a BK of one union and the rise of another(s) and at the end of the day they won't get their fantasy award anyway.

scambo1

Gloopy,

I can't argue with any of that. I agree.

Hillbilly

Not meant as derogatory, only the truth about where I came from.

I like the newfangled PC description you used t, although I think if my Memaw had ever heard it she would have given someone "the look", and a passive aggressive "well bless your heart."

Maybe it could be further expanded to "Appalachian Hilltop Americans" or "Appalachian Holler Americans."

scambo1

What's with the ears? T and Hillbilly have you guys got big ears? (choose your emoticon)

Hillbilly

I got lucky, mine are proportionate. Probably owe that to the family tree actually having branches and not simply a trunk.

tsquare

+1. and I don't even have to take off my shoes to do THAT cypherin'

tsquare

Love it.........

Purple Drank

OK, Bar (and others in the "ALPA can-do-no-wrong" crowd), let's take this from another direction and work backwards. Let's start with a different hypothetical felony and then find out where you draw the line.

Would the DPA be justified, in your mind, by reporting an alleged murder by another Delta pilot? Kidnapping? Kiddie porn?

Dorfman

Or draw the line the other way. How about an an airspeed violation, say going 270 at 5000. Do you call the Feds?

Or let's be more realistic about something that could happen. You get downstairs for the van pick up and the other guy had a bit much to drink. Do you tell him to call in sick or do you wait until you go through security and notify TSA or another Fed?

The guy(s) who did this were wrong. Should they get jail time or lose their job, I don't think so. There is a lot of emotion on each side of this issue and both sides have done some pretty stupid things. The best thing that can happen is for DPA to either call for a vote or roll up its tent. It's time for this group to unite and focus on C2015

Bucking Bar

How about a more real example. Did OJ Simpson's attorneys walk into the Courthouse and state "yeah, he did it" ?

No, they did their job; they defended their client, even though there were pretty concrete allegations that he had confessed to his Counsel. Their ethical responsibility was to represent their client as best they could, which they did to great success (for their client).

It is not a union's responsibility to do management, or the Fed's, jobs. A union has it's own job to do and job #1 is representing their pilots. Unions are held to a very high standard; expected to exercise a fiduciary duty (meaning putting their clients before themselves).

The fact that DPA supporters some how think a union has a right, or obligation, to participate in or promote harming the pilots in their care is yet another black and white indication the DPA has no idea what it is doing.

The DPA would be best served by admitting it called this one wrong.