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Old 11-05-2013, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Why is it not reasonable?

The company is making record profits.

Our concession are building roof top lounges, funding chef cook offs, building floats for pride parades, dividends to share holders, large pay increases for management as well as bonuses.

The concessions on the Delta side were over a billion a year alone.

And, how did you like that increase in medical benefits in light of all of the above?

Still think it is not reasonable?

Then why?
For one, the economy is still in a world of hurt. Do we really want to choke the "golden goose" only to lose everything again? Small, incremental gains that the company can sustain. This is the new way we should be thinking. If a line pilot can't live off of $100,000 dollars/yr then he/she needs to re-evaluate what their spending habits are!
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by flybywire44
DPA is critically outspoken against regional outsourcing.

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It's pretty clear to me Caplinger is just hiding behind all this feel good stuff to bring a seniority battle back to the table. Whah, whah. This guy is an embarrassment to all Delta pilots.
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
For one, the economy is still in a world of hurt. Do we really want to choke the "golden goose" only to lose everything again? Small, incremental gains that the company can sustain. This is the new way we should be thinking. If a line pilot can't live off of $100,000 dollars/yr then he/she needs to re-evaluate what their spending habits are!
Interesting. $100,000, is that the average? So how far below $100,000 should a Delta line pilot be to make $100,000 the average?
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
If a line pilot can't live off of $100,000 dollars/yr then he/she needs to re-evaluate what their spending habits are!
If I were to say: "If Richard Anderson can't live off of $100,000 dollars/yr then he needs to re-evaluate his spending habits!"...what would you say?

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Old 11-05-2013, 08:01 PM
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Hey Bob, I'm going to have to throw a flag here.



Your posts are too over the top to be legit. Even the most ardent of ALPA supporters doesn't go where you've gone.

So look, if you created an account to help push people towards the DPA on behalf of the DPA, it's becoming a little too obvious. Yes we hide our names but the union still knows who we are and occasionally they let us know that they know who we are, but we try to keep it real +/- a little variance. In the end people will figure it out.

If you actually are pro ALPA and not a DPA plant...

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Old 11-05-2013, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
It's pretty clear to me Caplinger is just hiding behind all this feel good stuff to bring a seniority battle back to the table. Whah, whah. This guy is an embarrassment to all Delta pilots.
Saul Alinsky rule numbers 5 and 8. Again.

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Old 11-05-2013, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Hey Bob, I'm going to have to throw a flag here.

^^^That's funny.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Hey Bob, I'm going to have to throw a flag here.



Your posts are too over the top to be legit. Even the most ardent of ALPA supporters doesn't go where you've gone.

So look, if you created an account to help push people towards the DPA on behalf of the DPA, it's becoming a little too obvious. Yes we hide our names but the union still knows who we are and occasionally they let us know that they know who we are, but we try to keep it real +/- a little variance. In the end people will figure it out.

If you actually are pro ALPA and not a DPA plant...

LOL, I was thinking the same thing. That's the reason I responded to M88driver the way I did.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
If I were to say: "If Richard Anderson can't live off of $100,000 dollars/yr then he needs to re-evaluate his spending habits!"...what would you say?

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pffft, try this...

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
If I were to say: "If Lee Moak can't live off of $100,000 dollars/yr then he needs to re-evaluate his spending habits!"...what would you say?

Carl
Now you'll raise someones blood pressure to a level that'll cost them $50 towards their HSA.
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Old 11-05-2013, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
Small, incremental gains that the company can sustain. This is the new way we should be thinking. !
No....that's the way the company should be thinking.

I want my agent to expend its efforts figuring out how to make us more money...not convincing us we need to seek less in order to subsidize the dividend/executives' bonuses/next aircraft order/etc.

Perhaps Bob Wiley is an agent provocateur planted here by the DPA to make ALPA look even more buffoonish. If so, I don't approve of that tactic. There are enough ALPA operatives here without sending in another clown. (paging Rather B. Fishin and his phallic fixation).

However, Wiley's tone-deafness is ALPA writ large. He probably believes every nocturnal emission from his keyboard.
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