Carl Spackler

No, the maker of the "scourge" comment hasn't been removed from office. The "scourge" comment and the entire "scourge" letter was written by ALPA national and given to DALPA to deliver to Delta pilots.

Carl

Carl Spackler

I don't remember that happening a single time. Your harshest critic from a DPA member is me. When was the last time I called you a name?

Carl

Carl Spackler

Yet you've said over and over again that we shouldn't vote for anyone else but ALPA because we don't know how much worse the new union could be.

Ironic.

Carl

Carl Spackler

I didn't mean for you to understand tsquare. I meant people who have the ability to read with objectivity.

Carl

Carl Spackler

Oh I know they're experts at political street fighting. But like Obama and other political thugs, that's all they know. What to do with the power they've gained is where they always go awry.

Couldn't agree more. But our MEC is now standing up and re-financing the Special Committee to continue their Alinsky tactics of destruction. That's where our new union leadership is taking us.

Carl

TheManager

Wow! This is why the DPA is basically on the eve of having the cards to force a vote.

If you represent DALPA, which I am sure you do considering the tone of your statement and that you have 20 or so posts making you an APC rookie, you are pushing the fence sitters in to the DPA.

You in one post:

Offended fellow pilots with your "greater minds than yours or more knowledgeable" ones comment." Nice work. Way to make people see and want to join your cause.

Then you highlighted the one flaw of DALPA that is paramount in changing to insure we keep them as a bargaining agent. Bottom up representation and organization.

You basically stated that the poster and 5000 + pilots are lacking the loyalty you desire for DALPA and demanded that you are "either for or against ALPA." Really intelligent.

Finally, your most outrageous comment comes near the end. It is laughable really. "Fall in soldier and quit questioning everything," and, "it's OK to question a little but at some point you have to trust those who you have elected to do their best."

There we have you again highlighting what has DALPA so perilously close to the precipice of extinction. The top down governing of the association by the committee chairmen and the old guard and the pressure politics they employee to cling to their power.

From your 20 odd posts, it is obvious you are not a line pilot. I'm guessing on two different angles.

1. Management/ or management consulting. Trying to stir the $h1t to create conflict and weaken ALPA by having them expend resources and man hours to thwart the DPA. Keeping the opposition unstable.

2. DALPA penguin or seagull that is too tone deaf and near sighted to know that the rhetoric you are spewing is exactly what is giving the DPA strength. Moak knows that this threat is urgent. ALPA loses DAL, ALPA then becomes irrelevant.

I believe ALPA is the best option for the pilots for political lobbying as the primary reason. Their attitude towards bottom up governance and the line pilot in general is its largest flaw. Just look at how the resolutions on FPL were handled for starters.

Keep it up. Keep insulting the members of DALPA as well as demanding military obedience. That wins hearts and minds.

tsquare

Do you really believe this?

johnso29

Nope. I won't vote for DPA because I know how much better ALPA is.

tsquare

Yeah I am not nearly as smart as the great whale captain.

TheManager

I whole heartily believe that they are pushing fence sitters away.

They have already lost 5000 or so.

The key to winning is, as bar always harps on: unity.

They are doing just the opposite by maligning those that have sent in cards. Pick anything, just one thing, an eventual restoration plan, crew rest facilities, specific mid term contract improvements and build unity by rallying everyone to the cause.

Be inclusive, not a hierarchy of top down governance.

Adopt a collaborative but firm approach toward our needs with management all the while understanding that it is just business, not personal.

No need for pitch forks and torches. Just intelligent leveraging of opportunities.

Dalpa appears to be doing just the opposite!?!?!?