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Old 11-04-2013, 07:25 PM
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How does that saying go 80?

"Can't please 5000 DPA cards, 100% of the time?"
The fact that half the pilots at the airline have put in a card is quite the indictment on ALPA's behavior, wouldn't you say?
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:27 PM
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If your dad is still in leadership ALPA, tell him to stop freaking screwing up and being the best promoter of said scourge. The DPA's continued existence rests solely on DALPA's hands.
You and your fellow DPA followers are the scourge. Whenever asked what your plan is going forward, there is no plan. DALPA has had a few problems yes but those at the top know what they are doing. Trust the system. It works. Soon we will have a strong, unified leader at the helm again and if we can cut the DPA cancer out you might actually see some progress.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
You and your fellow DPA followers are the scourge. Whenever asked what your plan is going forward, there is no plan. DALPA has had a few problems yes but those at the top know what they are doing. Trust the system. It works. Soon we will have a strong, unified leader at the helm again and if we can cut the DPA cancer out you might actually see some progress.

Oh, where to begin with you...

Please read my posts even in just the last page before making the assumptions that you have made about me.

Admitting that there are some serious problems with DALPA is the first step to getting rid of the "scourge," not continuing to have your head in the sand.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:34 PM
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The fact that half the pilots at the airline have put in a card is quite the indictment on ALPA's behavior, wouldn't you say?
Maybe......

1) I dislike the corruption (i.e. mistakes) of ALPA, but

2) I dislike the 'lack of a solid plan' by the DPA, even more!
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:39 PM
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Oh, where to begin with you...

Please read my posts even in just the last page before making the assumptions that you have made about me.

Admitting that there are some serious problems with DALPA is the first step to getting rid of the "scourge," not continuing to have your head in the sand.
After reading a few of your posts it seems to me you are a fence sitter. You are either for or against ALPA. Cat calling and a lack of loyalty to your representation will not get you to where we need to go. It's OK to question a little but at some point you have to trust those who you elected to do their best. We need a unified front if we ever want to make progress. Fall in solider and quit questioning everything. Greater minds than yours (or more knowledgeable is a better way of saying it) are working on the problems at hand 24/7.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Maybe......

1) I dislike the corruption (i.e. mistakes) of ALPA, but

2) I dislike the 'lack of a solid plan' by the DPA, even more!
I know you don't, but it's time to face reality when statistically half the Delta pilots you encounter at any one time have submitted a card. Think about that the next time youre down in ops, in the terminal, on the crew van...
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
You and your fellow DPA followers are the scourge. Whenever asked what your plan is going forward, there is no plan. DALPA has had a few problems yes but those at the top know what they are doing. Trust the system. It works. Soon we will have a strong, unified leader at the helm again and if we can cut the DPA cancer out you might actually see some progress.
Trust those at the top? How can we do that when the MEC just fired him?

And so now who do I trust? The 10 who voted yes or the 9 who voted no?

Does needing to fire the Chairman count as one of the "few problems"?
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:47 PM
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I'd wear my I heart Alpa thong if



we could vote for our chairman and we left ALPA National.
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Old 11-04-2013, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Wiley
After reading a few of your posts it seems to me you are a fence sitter. You are either for or against ALPA. Cat calling and a lack of loyalty to your representation will not get you to where we need to go. It's OK to question a little but at some point you have to trust those who you elected to do their best. We need a unified front if we ever want to make progress. Fall in solider and quit questioning everything. Greater minds than yours (or more knowledgeable is a better way of saying it) are working on the problems at hand 24/7.
Oh, you're going to do a great job recruiting more DPA cards around here I can see already....

"You're for us or against us?" And did you really tell me to fall in line and to quit questioning? Yikes! Say goodbye to any shred of credibility if you keep making statements like that. That is exactly how DALPA got to the place that it is in now. It's a union, not a military operation or religion.

And FWIW, I keep actively involved in ALPA.
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