Delta Pilots Association
11-04-2013, 04:11 PM
#7941
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
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Posts: 12,109
11-04-2013, 04:15 PM
#7942
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
How about for the DPA, like the ACA... Do we need to pass it to see what's in it? Is that a correct analogy?
weird- t and I are on the same brainwave tonight. Stop it!
11-04-2013, 04:17 PM
#7943
No longer cares
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
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I do not believe that is a correct assessment on the "devil you know" analogy. That can be a perfectly logical risk mitigation... no emotion needed.
How about for the DPA, like the ACA... Do we need to pass it to see what's in it? Is that a correct analogy?
weird- t and I are on the same brainwave tonight. Stop it!
How about for the DPA, like the ACA... Do we need to pass it to see what's in it? Is that a correct analogy?
weird- t and I are on the same brainwave tonight. Stop it!
11-04-2013, 04:26 PM
#7944
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: "Prof" button manipulator
Posts: 1,685
A little bit of money spent on flight pay loss to prevent the irreparable damage of a DPA is money well spent in my book! My father spent many years working for DALPA and ALPA national. He is good friends with Lee Moak, who is an outstanding guy. Has my father ever received FPL during his time working for the union? Yes. I can tell you this though. The difference he made during that time away from flying was worth its weight in gold to not only Delta pilots but all pilots flying in the U.S. and beyond.
It is/was nice having my dad home more than when he was flying the line but I can tell you this, not a day ever went by that he wasn't working or thinking of how to improve the conditions of the average Delta pilot. Make snarky little comments all you want, but FPL has a purpose and that purpose is to further the goals of pilots. End of story.
It is/was nice having my dad home more than when he was flying the line but I can tell you this, not a day ever went by that he wasn't working or thinking of how to improve the conditions of the average Delta pilot. Make snarky little comments all you want, but FPL has a purpose and that purpose is to further the goals of pilots. End of story.
Thank you for your father & family's service to the Delta pilot group. Never mind the DPA push, it'll go down in history, much like the 'difference' the Occupy Wall Street squatters made.
GJ
Last edited by Elliot; 11-04-2013 at 04:39 PM.
11-04-2013, 04:51 PM
#7945
Straight QOL, homie
Joined APC: Feb 2012
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So some ALPA heavies got all-expense paid vacations to try to head off the DPA. As a result, $66,000 of our dues money vanished. And ALPA has absolutely NOTHING to show for it.
How many "converts" from the DPA back to ALPA were registered for that $66,000? Your guess is as worthless as mine (which, for the record, is ZERO).
Did ALPA even know there were any DPA apostates at the bar those nights?
The notion that ALPA's waste of $66,000 of our money did anything other than provide a boondoggle for Moak's buddies is insulting.
11-04-2013, 04:56 PM
#7946
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
A little bit of money spent on flight pay loss to prevent the irreparable damage of a DPA is money well spent in my book! My father spent many years working for DALPA and ALPA national. He is good friends with Lee Moak, who is an outstanding guy. Has my father ever received FPL during his time working for the union? Yes. I can tell you this though. The difference he made during that time away from flying was worth its weight in gold to not only Delta pilots but all pilots flying in the U.S. and beyond.
It is/was nice having my dad home more than when he was flying the line but I can tell you this, not a day ever went by that he wasn't working or thinking of how to improve the conditions of the average Delta pilot. Make snarky little comments all you want, but FPL has a purpose and that purpose is to further the goals of pilots. End of story.
It is/was nice having my dad home more than when he was flying the line but I can tell you this, not a day ever went by that he wasn't working or thinking of how to improve the conditions of the average Delta pilot. Make snarky little comments all you want, but FPL has a purpose and that purpose is to further the goals of pilots. End of story.
FPL has a purpose, but that was freaking ridiculous. RP in one bout of immature behavior toward DT (with numerous witnesses) undid all of the "good will" that he was paid to try to create. ALPAoids playing political idiocy have done far more to promote the DPA than any other thing.
That was a complete waste of our dues money with nothing to show for it except the DPA card count grew even more thanks once again to our union's own antics.
11-04-2013, 05:03 PM
#7947
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
So you get to say DPA spouts lies on a daily basis, but you not only can't state them, but you won't be able to prove it until after DPA takes the reigns? That is almost totally incoherent.
You do this all the time tsquare. The minute you're confronted about factuality, you run. This is what you said:
If DPA is spouting lies on a daily basis, it shouldn't be hard to give a few examples of what you think is a lie. Don't run tsquare.
Carl
You do this all the time tsquare. The minute you're confronted about factuality, you run. This is what you said:
Carl
11-04-2013, 05:17 PM
#7949
Back on TDY
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Posts: 12,487
Carl
11-04-2013, 05:23 PM
#7950
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 478
I agree. All the divisiveness created by Moak proxies successfully removing the MEC chairman by one vote on the MEC was very bad for our group. The divisiveness that will follow from another Moak proxy being elected as MEC chairman will be continually bad for our group.
Carl
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