DAL 88 Driver

Really? How can you possibly say that?!

Using MD-88 Captain rates as a basis for comparison, we would need a 33.5% increase to our current contract's 2012 rate (you know, the rate negotiated by DALPA years after the bankruptcy/emergency was over) to get up to the buying power we had with our 1996 concessionary contract rate. To get to the buying power an MD-88 Captain had one decade earlier than the 1996 concessionary contract (1986) for example, would take a 67% increase to the current 2012 rate. To get back to C2K buying power would require a 71% increase to the current 2012 rate.

It seems to me that someone would have to be missing a whole lot of perspective to be able to say they are "certainly satisfied with the results we are getting from DALPA". What are you thinking??

tsquare

I don't know actually. I guess the burr under my saddle is that the union president is pulling down almost $500K/year. That is hardly a representative income of any of the individual associations within his fiefdom. His housing allowance alone is more than most FOs and even some captains that he supposedly represents make. I don't know about you guys, but I find that not only wrong, but utterly insulting. Why should he have an allowance that pays the mortgage on a million dollar property? Elect me, and I'll personally see to it that the president makes NO MORE than the highest paid captain at his representative airline. You want the job? Go for it, but remember.. commuting is a choice. Don't want to commute? Then move.. at your own expense.... just like the rest of us.

EDIT: I am not necessarily an advocate of the DPA, but I sure as hell want to see a wholesale house cleaning at national. If we don't see it after the election, I'm sending in a card. The gauntlet is down.

Carl Spackler

A decertification won by any amount is an obvious vote of no confidence...against ALPA national. A no confidence vote and unity are two entirely different things. As such, I still don't get how you're conflating the two.

Of course. That's certainly understandable.

Then you are probably not going to vote for DPA under any case. Which is of course your right...you dis-uniter you!

Carl

Carl Spackler

This is one of the areas of disconnect here Bar. I don't have loyalty to anybody I hire and pay for. They must show loyalty to me! I'm the customer by definition because I'm paying for the service. If they don't think I'm loyal to them, too bad. If I don't think they're loyal to me, the business relationship is over.

You and some of the other pro-ALPA types are trying to make this a family. It's not. It's business. Not personal...business.

Carl

Carl Spackler

"Changing ALPA from within", ain't one either dude.

Carl

Carl Spackler

Complete BS. Your opinion only based on nothing but your feelings. You're entitled to them, but strictly your opinion and feelings.

Carl

0RAC

Ahhh, the 2009 election, so long ago. You did mean the one where not a single person ran against the incumbent chairman that everyone now wants out only a a year or so later? That election? Pages of words against the current leadership and you bring up an election last year that, if someone had run, could have changed the current union leadership? What a great opportunity for three or more pilots to step up and volunteer. I guess starting a new union from scratch is easier than having to run for a current position.

tsquare

fyp... other than that.. yeah this^

Carl Spackler

Dang it...you're right!

Carl

shadyops

In theory the Representatives represent the majority and vote for them. If you vote for a Rep, it is likely you've done a little research and know how they will cast their vote.