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11-26-2011, 08:38 PM
#6811
Da Hudge
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That was the one that I thought it was in, perhaps it was in something from LEC 44. I know for a fact it was in something official by ALPA recently (or meeting minutes), because I distinctly remember feeling my blood cooling a little bit on ALPA for a bit after reading it.
11-26-2011, 08:51 PM
#6812
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11-26-2011, 09:29 PM
#6815
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76drvr wrote:
After the first rolling three year average, how often do they look back, every three years, or do they look back three years every year?
I'm in over my head trying to respond to this. From what I understand, we are in a measurement period that started April 2011, and runs to March 2014. If during this measurement period, we are not in compliance, there is a one year period where Delta can "fix" the problem. The important thing to remember here is that because of the profit/loss arrangement of the JV, the company does not want to be out of compliance. They may have pulled down Transatlantic flying earlier than AF/KLM/AZ but AF/KLM/AZ will not want to keep their flying up, bear the costs of those flights, and then give away half the profit to Delta. The old AF/KLM JV required us to share growth proportionally. It did not address what happened if there was shrinkage. LOA 16 and MOU 14 did that, and also returned the proportion to 50/50 approximately.
Beyond this, you need to talk to someone at ALPA that can give you a full explanation.
After the first rolling three year average, how often do they look back, every three years, or do they look back three years every year?
I'm in over my head trying to respond to this. From what I understand, we are in a measurement period that started April 2011, and runs to March 2014. If during this measurement period, we are not in compliance, there is a one year period where Delta can "fix" the problem. The important thing to remember here is that because of the profit/loss arrangement of the JV, the company does not want to be out of compliance. They may have pulled down Transatlantic flying earlier than AF/KLM/AZ but AF/KLM/AZ will not want to keep their flying up, bear the costs of those flights, and then give away half the profit to Delta. The old AF/KLM JV required us to share growth proportionally. It did not address what happened if there was shrinkage. LOA 16 and MOU 14 did that, and also returned the proportion to 50/50 approximately.
Beyond this, you need to talk to someone at ALPA that can give you a full explanation.
You just made it awesome, though.
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